runner: Besides quoting academia dogma you along with Belly have provided no evidence of Islam coming from Abraham. Strangely enough Mohammed never visited Jerusalem except supposedly while asleep by the angel Gabriel.

Moslems believe their Religion originates from the God of Abraham. They even have the same Angels (Gabriel) who surround the Jewish & Christian God.

By the way, Wasn't King Ahab that standardised all the old Hebrew/Canaanite/local Gods into one during his reign, Jehovah. The old Abrahamic name for God was "EL" or "AL" depending on the local dialect. Therefore "AL-LAH" in Arabic. Another by the way, The Moon God isn't. She was a Moon Goddess & was a local Arab fertility Goddess.

Similar Goddesses abound;

Sumerian;
Sadarnuna, Sarpandit.
Indian;
Condi, Gwadar.
Chinese;
Chang-O.
Tibetan;
Lasya.
Babylonian;
Ishtar, Anunit.
Persian;
Anahita.
Early Greek;
Andrommeda.
Greek;
Aega, Artimis, Demeter, Selene.
Crete;
Britamarties.
Roman;
Diana, Luna.
Etruscan;
Zirna.
Celtic;
Aine, Arianhod, Cerriduern.
Sth. Ametican;
Aichualgan.
Christian;
Mary.
Arab;
Al-At, Al-Uzza, Man-At.

runner,
>Ask any Muslim if they worship the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ or the God of Israel and your false dogma is exposed.

Though Muslims, like Jews, generally don't recognise Jesus as the Christ, nor the son of God (and certainly not God incarnate) they do worship the God of Jesus. Learned Muslims would certainly recognise they worship the God of Israel, though ignorant ones may doubt it due to anti Jewish propaganda.

The hypothesis that "Allah" referred to the moon god of the ancient Arabs is well known, but there seems to be more evidence against it than for. There's no archeological evidence of Islamic use of the crescent symbol before the Ottomans. Arab Christians called God "Allah" in preIslamic times. And the name of that ancient moon god was Sîn. So if there is a connection it's a weak one. At most it's possible that the Arabic phrase for "the moon god" was sufficiently similar to "Allah" that some people thought they were the same, but that's hardly a major factor in Islam's development, and it's not as if Christianity was immune from pagan influence either.

There is much wrong with Islam, with Mohammed himself being both the reported and logical source of the corruption. But it means Muslims generally have a poorer understanding of what God wants than Christians do; NOT that they don't worship the same God.

Hi Jayb

'By the way, Wasn't King Ahab that standardised all the old Hebrew/Canaanite/local Gods into one during his reign, Jehovah'

King Ahab under the influence of his wife Jezebel encouraged the worship of Baal. Elijah the prophet ordered the destruction of these prophets and all the other worshippers of Baal because it was idolatry. The Jews never considered Jehovah and Baal as the same God. They did in times of idolatry worship Baal. Again the crescent might just give you a clue. It is why Ahab was described as one of Israel's most wicked kings. Now Baal and Allah and the relationship I will allow you to use your investigate skills.

'Many believe the word “Allah” was derived from the mid- eastern word “el” which in Ugaritic, Caananite and Hebrew can mean a true or false God. This is not the case, “The source of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning “God” (or a “god”), and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity.” (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics (ed. Hastings), I:326.)'

Are Yahweh and El the same god OR different gods? (Gen 14:22, 17:1, 21:33; Ex 6:2-3; Ps 82:1 vs Deut 32:8-9; Ps 29:1, 89:6-8)

Contrary to these biblical traditions that suggest an assimilation between Yahweh and El, there are other passages that seem to indicate that Yahweh was a separate and independent deity within El’s council. Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is one of those rare biblical passages that seemingly preserves a vestige of an earlier period in proto-Israelite religion where El and Yahweh were still depicted as separate deities: Yahweh was merely one of the gods of El’s council! This tradition undeniably comes from older Canaanite lore.

When the Most High (’elyôn) gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated humanity, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of divine beings. For Yahweh’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.

There are two points to take away from this passage. First, the passage presents an apparently older mythic theme that describes when the divine beings, that is each deity in the divine counsel, were assigned and allotted their own nation. Israel was the nation that Yahweh received. Second, Yahweh received his divine portion, Israel, through an action initiated by the god El, here identifiable through his epithet “the Most High.” In other words, the passage depicts two gods: one, the Most High (El), is seen as assigning nations to the divine beings or gods (the Hebrew word is elohim, plural “gods”) in his council; the other, Yahweh, is depicted as receiving from the first god, the Most High, his particular allotment, namely the people of Israel. Similarly, in another older tradition now preserved in Numbers 21:29, the god Chemosh is assigned to the people of Moab.

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Other biblical passages reaffirm this archaic view of Yahweh as a god in El’s council. Psalm 82:1 speaks of the “assembly of El,” Psalm 29:1 enjoins “the sons of El” to worship Yahweh, and Psalm 89:6-7 lists Yahweh among El’s divine council.

Thus there seems to be ample evidence in the biblical record to support the claim that as Yahweh become the supreme national deity of the Israelites, he began to usurp the imagery, epithets, and old cultic centers of the god El. This process of assimilation even morphed the linguistic meaning of the name El, which later came to mean simply “god,” so that Yahweh was then directly identified as ’el—thus Joshua 22:22: “the god of gods is Yahweh” (’el ’elohim yhwh).

Not tied up with the freemasons are you Jayb or is it a secret?