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What influences you in casting your vote?

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Tidal and geothermal look interesting. Tidal production is in the megawatt range whereas Wind in the kilowatt range, solar in the 100 Watt range. Geothermal requires deep drilling- expensive in capital expenditure but potentially low maintenance.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 25 June 2018 4:05:48 PM
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I just received this today. I notice you posted it on the 22nd Foxy.
Foxy: Canem Malum, You enjoy reading Plato?

So do I. I read or have read a lot of the old writings. Some interesting ones;
Epicurius’s Letter to Menoeceus, Ovids Maramorphoses (Genesis), & Plutarchs Synposiocs 1 & 2. Just to get a gist of the Ancients train of thought.

Now;
Foxy: In the United States people can and do swap parties.

But it’s hard. Once you have registered for a Party, & you have to have a Registered Party Registration to Vote, you are virtually stuck with that Party for life. The Vitriol for one party or the other is frightening. The Everly Brothers are a good example.

Belly: one nation breathing down their red necks! never! the red head has the reddest neck by far but votes only with her old party,
Hmmm… I realize you are one of the “Dyed in the wool” Labor Supporter. I doubt one could get an Redder that that except for the Commo Party.

Belly : she has limited time in politics,

True, but hasn’t she shaken thing up & got some stagnant things moving. She may never be a major player but she is effective in her own way, much to the Chagrin of the Two Majors & the Greens.
I’ll vote for Pauline because the two majors are only interested in their own agenda & the Greens are just a Comedy Fest, be it a horrifying one for Australia.

Foxy: We need politicians who will listen to the concerns of the voters. They need to address those concerns.

Ha! & where are you going to find one of these in either of the Two majors or the Greens.

Foxy: The voters usually get it right in the end. Dirty tactics are now becoming a turn-off to most people.

Somewhat late to the party Foxy. I think most people, or more & more of them are becoming disillusioned. Just getting them to make the change is the hard part.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 25 June 2018 4:31:29 PM
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Jayb,

We'll see at the next election - whether voters
will make any changes. As I wrote earlier -

Massive changes have been occurring for decades in
our lives. The speed and impact of these changes
remind us not just to observe the changes but to
understand the changes and respond so that we can
thrive in these times.

Hopefully, we shall see this happen.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 June 2018 6:50:18 PM
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Jayb,
I used to defend the Coalition but then they crapped on me & now my support goes to One Nation. Not because I'm expecting them to win but because I know they're the only ones who can shake that rotten to the core two party system which is dictated to by minority groups & totally neglects the working class.
We must give Pauline support for the Nation's future sake. ALP/LNP have proven time after time that they can't manage. I'm certain with just enough support from us ON can make them accountable to do some repairs to the damage done by the two majors. People say Pauline hasn't got what it takes, she has, the maggots in the comfort zone are just too s..t scared to let her prove herself.
Federal & State & Local Govt. have been hyjacked by the thousands of public servants whose last priority is to serve the public.
Posted by individual, Monday, 25 June 2018 7:36:16 PM
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CM: Tidal production is in the megawatt range

A lot in Britain I believe. Small scale at this stage. Little steps.

It has a lot to do with the Big Power Companies losing their control over the use of Energy.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 25 June 2018 7:48:56 PM
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Foxy, I cannot see wind & solar ever being cheap.
Consider this; Decide what the maximum load that is needed for the whole country.
Given a very large area is available, such as the size of Australia.
Install a grid system to cover all that area, not 100% of it of course but all the settled areas.
Multiply the maximum load demand by 12 and install that capacity.

There will never be enough money to pay for it.
The figure 12 comes from the effective percentage output over a winter day.
Given a large enough area to take advantage of geographically
separated weather.
12 is said to be optimistic, the smaller the geographical area the
larger that factor has to be.
The article said the number is exponential to the smaller size area.
To my limited mathematical skills that seems reasonable.

I don't think anyone has a 100% certainty on just how many times
maximum load you have to install for a given country size.
I have found it hard to find much information, but what I have written
here I think outlines the problem.
Listening our politicians I would be very surprised if any of them
has even heard of such calculations, let alone the implications.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 25 June 2018 7:49:26 PM
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