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http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 14.


(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.

People seeking asylum from persecution have committed no crime by crossing the borders of another country. However, the country whose borders they cross has no obligation to give them asylum. This is a question difficult to resolve. The United Nations has created a right without a corresponding obligation.

There are at least an estimated 50 million people in the world seeking asylum. In many of the Latin American countries they are fearful of their lives because of the presence of murderous drug gangs. They have a legitimate reason to seek asylum in the United States or in other countries.

However, although they have a right to seek asylum, the United States and other countries have no obligation to grant them asylum.
The market for drugs is chiefly in the United States. If there was not a lucrative market there would be little incentive for the drug gangs. If the United States would legalize drugs the market would no longer be lucrative. That would help.

Malcolm Turnbull has said he would like to make Australia one of the top ten arms exporters. In a world awash with arms, that could have the effect of creating more refugees. That would hurt. Maybe he could sell the arms to American gun nuts.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 21 June 2018 4:08:21 PM
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Malcolm Turnbull has said he would like to make Australia one of the top ten arms exporters.
davidf,
I haven't heard that before & if true it is incredibly disappointing considering the gun laws in place here.
Does he intend to make money from selling australian weapons to our potential enemies whist at the same time keep disarming us?
Posted by individual, Friday, 22 June 2018 8:08:56 AM
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The 'right’ to seek asylum in Australia exists ONLY because extreme Leftist and suspected Russian spy, 'Doc’ Evatt, signed up to the convention when asylum seekers were genuine and not the economic and political (in the case of Muslims) users they are now.

Australia could opt out of the convention at any time; as it would if we weren't in the hands of a bunch of cowards and lickspittles to the UN.

Illegals are NOT at liberty, even under the convention, to country-shop, passing through other countries where they could obtain asylum on their way to the 'chosen’ country - which is why Australia will not accept people not chosen by us by and passed by the UNHRC.

And, what the hell has that got to do with drugs, arms and the fact that Malcolm Turnbull has a good idea for once and wants us to make money from the arms industry!
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 22 June 2018 10:07:52 AM
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Hi there TTBN...

Again you've managed to hit the nail precisely on the head. Most asylum seekers do Country Shop, seeking out Nations with the greatest handouts, and those who're the most gullible. As evidenced by Labour's policy of allowing unfettered access without carefully vetting and scrutinising each asylum seeker to our Country.

Mr Malcolm FRASER (dec) proved how adroit he was on immigration - it was he that opened Australia's borders to the Lebanese, post their Civil War with only the most minor vetting being undertaken. Thus allowing in hoards of Lebanese criminals. Moreover he had the loudest voice in the C'Wealth, supporting Rhodesia's independence, thus removing one of the sharpest minds on the African Continent Mr Ian SMITH, and replacing him with Mr Robert MUGABE Despot and murderer.

What Australia needs is a more pragmatic leader who can see the reality of an imprudent refugee policy, and have a thorough understanding, of this notion of; 'Country Shopping'. Anyone who denies this strategy and/or tactic, must be obtuse in the extreme.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 22 June 2018 11:27:03 AM
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I chose not to engage in the drivel about Doc Evat but highlight a far different world then to now,great numbers of us are the result of that much needed rise in migration,FEAR of loss of national identity, the death of integration, its replacement with the murky term multi culture, is behind both true concerns held by decent people, and the ratbag right,s out right racism I get the feeling behind the scenes in some unknown place the world leaders sit, a plan to make us one humanity has been put in place, in 200 years it may have worked, but much pain could be avoided if we aimed for an integration that had two way respect for both sides,if we could stop faith, every single one of them, being used to divide humanity it could be a painless transition.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 June 2018 2:51:54 PM
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O sung wu,

Thanks. Fraser was also the one responsible for multiculturalism, another failed and dangerous policy. I agree with your comments on Rhodesia and Ian Smith. Rhodesia was the food bowl of Africa and an exporter of primary produce. Now Zimbabweans are lucky to feed themselves.

Belly,

Drivel certainly goes with Evatt. As for your own drivel, 74% of Australians are opposed to the current mass immigration, up 14% from the last survey. I suggest that you know sweet FA about what most Australians think. You've been too long in the Left corner. Still using the hackneyed old word 'racism', the one you Lefties bring out when you are losing, I see. LOL about the 'feeling' you get; it must be in some place other than between your ears. As for 'aiming for integration', every time someones suggest that, they are howled down by your mob. Immigrants, especially Muslims, are not going to integrate when they can stick to their own enclaves and never learn a word of English, and still get the dole.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 22 June 2018 3:14:28 PM
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