Just for you Aidan. You must have missed it in the other thread.

NASA global temperatures show a 0.56 C COOLING from Feb 2016 to 2018.

No interest to MSM and kept very quiet by alarmists.

Who told you that big fib that 2916 was the hottest on record.

Academia is no longer to be trusted. Don't ever get between a modern university & a pile of money.

Aidan,

"The reunification of Germany certainly had a lot to do with it, but the big reduction started to occur before then, and (as can be seen on the third graph) there was also a substantial increase in gas use."

The figures you see are combined East/West German figures. There was a reduction but almost all was in the East and due to the retirement or simple breakdown of Soviet era equipment as the whole Soviet empire imploded under pressure from Reagan's policies. Equally the later increase in gas was due to increased availability from the North Sea and Gazprom.

There was significant changes in the German energy mix in the 1990's but almost all of it was due to economic and political factors. People "tak[ing] the problem [climate change] seriously" had very little to do with it.

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Hasbeen,

By NASA global temperatures I assume you mean GISS. While there was asignificant decline between the dates you mention it wasn't as great as you say.

But the biggest problem with your point is that the period is too short to make any meaningful observations.

For the past 30 years, the more serious of those opposed to the great scare have been pointing out that short time frames have been misused by the alarmists to push the scare and that we need to take a much longer view of the climate. The worse thing that the opposition can do is to then play the same game.

I'm of the view that we are entering a prolonged cooling phase. But cherry-picking short anomolies in the data to prove it simply invites the alarmists to do likewise. Anything less than 15 years is meaningless.

mhaze I am commenting on the fact that 2016 is being claimed to be the warmest "EVER". It obviously wasn't.

I could also have claimed that the latest hottest "EVER" can only be claimed if you start your comparison after the turn of last centaury, & the 1930s, both of which recorded higher temperatures. Even after some unexplained reduction in the temperatures recorded at those times, they still can't get modern temperatures to equal them, so try to forget they ever occurred.

I agree that with the current trend in sun spots, we are more likely to suffer from chilblains than heat stroke in the coming decades.

I know it is probably a waste of time, but I live in hope that we can educate some of the useful idiots that have fallen for the scam.

Heard today. 300,000 Australians cannot afford electricity AT ALL. In the same media 'breath’, the government is thinking about imposing a carbon tax on motor cars. Freydenberg denies it, but we still remember Gillard's promise about a carbon tax. don't we?

mhaze,
The Germans did take the acid rain problem seriously, and AIUI treating the exhaust soon became mandatory. I don't dispute the big drop in coal use was mainly due to reunification, however it did begin before reunification.

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ttbn,
I hadn't heard that figure. I expect it relates to the cost of the grid connection rather than the electricity itself (but I'm always happy to be corrected if you have genuine evidence to the contrary).

And I remind you that Tim Flannery did not claim it would never rain again in Adelaide (or anywhere else for that matter). He said it MAY not come (with the implied timeframe being "before the reservoirs are completely empty" rather than "ever").

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Hasbeen,
2016 is widely regarded as the hottest year on record, and I understood that's what NASA had claimed. Do you have any evidence it wasn't?

The 1930s weren't particularly hot globally, despite being unusually hot in the USA.

It was this thread where you first posted the 2016-18 cooling claim. Far from missing it, I responded to it. commenting on its significance (low, due to 2016 being the hottest year on record) and asking where you got the figures from. Your arrogant "do your own research" response suggests they're not even genuine.

Hasbeen,
I've now found that data you were too lazy to post a link to. For the benefit of everyone else reading this, it's at http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt

I notice that while the claim is true, 2018 had the fifth hottest February on record.