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And So The Climate Change Ripoff Continues

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Foxy
Please translate your last paragraph to plain English, I am confused.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 14 June 2018 11:39:22 PM
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So it's all some sort of international conspiracy, decades in the making intended to -
create a one-world government,
bankrupt the US economy,
create unlimited wealth for scientists,
bring western civilisation to it's knees -

Take your pick, they've all been suggested (and more).

Those suggestiona are worthy of -
the Flat Earthers,
the smoking-is-harmless lobby,
the acid-rain-comes-from-volcanos-and-not-heavy-industry lobbyists,
the moon-landing-was-a-hoax brigade,
the shape-shifting reptilian aliens are running the world or
the Queen Elizabeth runs the world's biggest drug Cartel groups.

They all exist (to name just a handful).

Or maybe, just maybe there's some truth to it but some are prepared to bet the whole world on it.
Posted by rache, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:57:48 AM
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ttbn how can you, after claiming so much knowledge not know that 46 degrees was just 40 klm from the NSW coast? or that parts of Sydney got it or close for days? I rest my case and look elsewhere for information on climate change
Posted by Belly, Friday, 15 June 2018 6:57:58 AM
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Junk science and man made gw. One and the same just like transgenders and biology. The left are certainly the ones with blind faith.
Posted by runner, Friday, 15 June 2018 9:24:45 AM
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Belly,

I don't live there, but yes, unusual conditions will occur in natural climate change. That is no reason to prostitute yourself to erroneous, often deliberately untruthful, 'reasons’ for change. It seens to me that you believers have less respect for the very thing you claim to worry about - nature - than you do for the charlatans who have invented stories which nature itself has disproved over and over again.

Aidan,

No. I am not lying. I leave that to to the conmen bastardising science. You are looking at their stats, not the right ones. You are the one unwilling to cast off nonsense that is patently untrue, so desperate are you to believe in something - anything. You will go on defending your myths because to do otherwise would make you look silly. You have yet to realise that your entire stance on this matter is silly. Your reference to 'conservatives’ is noted, and it highlights your political reasons for your beliefs. Calling me a liar confirms your lack of certainly.

Climate change - something that we have to adapt to - is not a problem; the problem is mass hysteria, which has even had some hysterics calling for “deniers” to be prosecuted. Such is their mediaeval, superstitious mindset, it's a surprise that they don't want us burned at the stake so that they could continue their black magic without criticism. This hysteria has been described as a “toxic mixture of politics, economics, science, ignorance, myopia, stupidity, fear, hubris……”. I agree with that description, as I agree with Peter Smith and other intelligent, honest people.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 15 June 2018 9:51:56 AM
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ttbn,
You say you're not lying, but your absurd claim that "Simple record checking showed... that there had been no warming for decades" doesn't look to me like it could have been an honest mistake. At most it is the result of extreme cherry picking, but more likely someone simply made it up. Either way, it is fundamentally dishonest, and I certainly can't avoid the conclusion that you're a liar.

"You are the one unwilling to cast off nonsense that is patently untrue"
Because I look at it and find firstly that it does make sense, and secondly that the evidence shows that it is true! For unlike you and runner, I don't pick the conclusion I want to be true and then look for evidence to support it; I look at the evidence BEFORE determining if something's true.

"You will go on defending your myths because to do otherwise would make you look silly."
On the contrary, defending myths in the face of the evidence (as you do) makes you look silly. Admitting you're wrong would make you look sensible, and I would gladly do so if there were compelling evidence. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and so far the deniers have scarcely supplied even ordinary evidence (merely a few quibbles about a small proportion of the temperature records). Instead of evidence they supply very dubious statistical claims that time has since proven to be false (the hiatus) and assume the climate scientists to be ignorant of things they've long been aware of.

"Your reference to 'conservatives’ is noted, and it highlights your political reasons for your beliefs"
No it doesn't, but your failure to answer my question strengthens my suspicion about the reason for yours.

I don't base my decisions on political tribalism; I make up my own mind on all issues. On some of those issues (such as SSM) I do end up siding with the conservatives; on most issues I oppose them. And while the political motive for climate change denial's strong in Australia and America, it's far weaker in the rest of the world.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:10:19 PM
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