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Can One Nation survive this?

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Belly, to answer your original question.

If One Nation remains a "personality based party", that being very much the singular beliefs of Pauline Hanson, then I would say it is doomed to wither and die. Possibly not as spectacular as did PUP, better known as the Big Clive Party, as sure as Big Clive crashed and burned, so did his party. One Nation is in danger of the same outcome as PUP, the signs are there, again
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 9 June 2018 7:14:07 AM
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In response to Foxy's comment "Firstly, the migrants that I know have worked hard hard all of their lives, raised their families, and
asked for nothing from the government."

*Comment - Whether they work hard or not is irrelevant. Its the Australian peoples democratic right to say who comes into the country. They may do so on the basis of perceived cultural fit or any other reason. They may even choose to let people in on the basis of hard work. The socs and caps are hijacking the issue and demonizing the Australian public for their own profit.

In a democracy the people do not have to justify their vote / mandate.

If you want to influence the people to vote for you - you need to convince them - usually by appealing to their own self interest. That doesn't mean that you can use tricky arguments to win - because the public are usually intelligent enough to know in their "heart" when they are being conned - even if they are unable in their "mind" to refute an argument. (Hearts and Minds)

The socs and caps have created a straw devil (the concept of the "racist") and used this to circumvent democracy. At this stage people have become afraid to even think about challenging the "racist" straw man concept. If you can label a person as bad or evil it gives you the ability to ignore them, to attack them, to goal them. As Aristotle said government by law has the potential to be the best form of government - as it isn't arbitrary - it is objective - based on the written word.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 9 June 2018 7:30:19 AM
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We are stretching it a bit, claiming the Australian people have the right to say who comes may be emotional but it is not near true, REMEMBER today we are a country that see,s children and grand children of migrants that built us, right here right now,look at the world, see if you will, [that can not be assured], migration is here to stay.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 9 June 2018 7:56:11 AM
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The public of the world are caught in an internecine "global" geopolitical battle between the socs and caps. There are a few other global players such as India and China. The ALT movement is for "local" people and that's why it's so important for democracy.

A few of us are trying to bring government back to the people so they can control their own environment - so they can build their own house with limited regulation, they can solve problems in their towns and cities, they can tell their governments how they want to fit into the world framework, they can work with the neighboring countries, and they can create a better world in their own image.

We believe that family, and culture (the Australian Culture) is natural and primary.

Democracy is "bottom up" not "top down"

We hope you'll be part of our story.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 9 June 2018 8:14:16 AM
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Belly said "We are stretching it a bit, claiming the Australian people have the right to say who comes may be emotional but it is not near true"

*Our point - So Belly appears to be saying that Australian peoples views are not primary. Belly can be forgiven for repeating a view common in the media and elsewhere especially in globalist socs and caps circles.

They don't actually believe in democracy - The socs and caps just "want what they want" - an opinion based on arbitrariness - let the kangaroos hop around the paddock - thump their tails on the ground - we can feed them and take care of them, find some use for them... but don't let them into positions of power.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 9 June 2018 9:21:07 AM
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CM,

I don't know about you, but I say that all these statements about 'hardworking immigrants’ who have 'contributed’ and slaved away for Australia are completely vacuous; they have not done any more for Australia than anyone else - in fact they have done less, as the hard yards were already done by my ancestors and original settlers. Too many of the newcomers are on welfare when they haven't done a lick for Australia, or put in a cent.

And, while I agree that we should have the right to decide who comes here, we obviously do not, according to the current political class with its mass immigration (both parties). Even John Howard, who was the only politician to say that we will decide who comes here, kicked off the current absurd mass immigration of people from Third World countries - and those same immigrants cost him his own seat.

Sadly, democracy is top down these days - if what we have now can be called democracy.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 9 June 2018 10:01:13 AM
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