Moaning Millennials

Nicholas Brown, apparently a millennial himself because he says “We were told by our parents that we could be anything we want” , reckons that they have been “sold a lie”. (The Spectator online 17/5) They were told that they were special. Fifteen percent of millennials suffer major depression he says, while people who went through two world wars and the Great Depression manage to be “comparatively” positive, while millennials, who don't have to worry about any of that, need 'trigger warnings’, receive recognition just for turning up, and losers receive greater “adulation” than the winner.

Nicholas blames our education system (don't we all?) where it's all about an “ugly child-centred system” prioritising comfort and ignoring resilience. Teachers are not respected, and they have no ability to discipline their charges. Kids are taught to be frightened of other people, and physical contact is verboten. Boys are treated “like girls with an attitude problem".

Sheltering this unfortunate generation from the “roles and structures” that have helped their forebears ‘see it through’ has made it difficult for millennials to find their way, thinks Nichols Brown. I admire his insight, particularly if he is 'one of them’, and I believe that there can never be any forgiveness for the social engineers who made millennials what they are.

Don't be silly ttbn, the whole program has been a complete success for the Womens libbers who designed it.

We now have more girls going to university, even if they are studying useless humanities bulldust.

They have nearly got to the stage where you require a degree to work in a child care centre, minding pre-schoolers, & you do need one to empty bed pans in a hospital.

Pity everyone now requires a calculator to make change for a 2 dollar bus ticket, bit that's progress for you.

//Nicholas blames our education system (don't we all?)//

Nah, I reckon it's the parents: don't let your kids eat dirt, don't give them a smack when they've earnt it, don't let them play outside... just plonk them in front of the most convenient screen, that should keep them content.

I clearly remember when all this nonsense started. Social "experts' all academic of course, telling us not to discipline our kids, same for school teachers. National Service was gotten rid of & brought a huge swing of votes to the Left.
Those of us who could forsee the outcome were of course shot down with ridicule just as is done with PC now.
Enterpreneurs were favoured to manufacturers, image became everything & greed was good.
No-one gave a thought of millennials inheriting the mess.
The feminists & the gays, all collaborating with the Left to demonise the Right. I wonder what Academia is dreaming up next whilst integrity-devoid bureaucrats keep giving them our tax dollars hence them digging in their heels against tax reform..

And not forgetting government funded drug testing labs, for the testing of illegal recreational drugs at music festivals.

That'd take the cake for the " stupid " award of the year.

Diver Dan,
If you or I had a need for an Ambulance & we had no cover, how much would we need to have to fork out ?
On the other hand drug abusers get immediate attention & no effort is spared by medicos et al but we never hear of them having private health insurance/cover.

Any drug abuser shoul be required to have a tag or a small tatoo that identifies them as being covered so that the first people on the scene can call an abulance if they're covered or the Police if they're not.
Drug abusers are not normal people & therefore should not be afforded privileges for normal, tax-paying, responsible citizens. They know the risks yet still take drugs so, there's no help for them nor should there be.
The bureaucracy we're discussing here is a major cause for all this irresponsible dysfunction.

diver dan,
That drug testing at festivals is far from stupid. A lot of people were deterred from taking drugs when they found what was in them.

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individual,
Ambulances are for everyone who need them, not just the normal people. Access to healthcare is a right not a privilege. If there's a charge, it's billed afterwards not upfront. That's the case whether or not someone's on drugs.

BTW your hypocrisy (criticising bureaucracy yet proposing more) and your lack of compassion indicate you're a psychopath rather than a normal person.

Everyone should get help when they need it, regardless of whether you think they deserve it. That way they can become "normal, tax-paying, responsible citizens".

Everyone should get help when they need it,

Below, just ust one of many incidences.

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/townsville-police-label-attack-on-paramedics-abhorrent/news-story/b17213781d7c2f7f2721a2b8eb0c930d

Not thinning out the numbers of drug abusers is exactly not helping their victims.
Being a do-gooder only makes the do-gooder feel warm'n fozzy, it's not doing any good to anyone else.
Judging by the way the violence based games are increasing in popularity shows a worrying irrational direction Millennials are heading.
It's unforgivable of our generation not to give them direction purely because of the insatiable greed of those who get paid handsomely by our tax dollars. Bureaucracy is a top predator.

Not sure how this topic was converted to talk about about drugs, ambulances and people being psychopaths because Aidan says so, and 'rights' to medical treatment. There are no such thing as 'rights' to medical treatment or any thing else. We have services and advantages IF we can afford them, or IF taxpayers can can help out in paying for those who can't afford them.

Millennials are unlikely to be any more into drugs than previous generations; many of the previous generations are under the influence of alcohol, the most popular drug if all, more often than not.

No Aiden, there is no right to medical treatment, particularly if the cause is self inflected.

I raced cars for a number of years, & I & my kids rode show jumpers. For clubs running such events it was becoming quite expensive to pay for an ambulance & medics to attend these things, & many were running less events due to the increasing cost.

Some members complained that ambulance attendance should be free, but the majority agreed, clubs should fund ambulance officers spending a day at venues. If we chose to indulge in activities more dangerous than watching TV or playing Tiddlywinks, there was no reason for the community to pick up our safety costs.

Even this was only acceptable as it was off duty officers, picking up some extra money that attended. It would not have been OK if it reduced the number of ambulances available for accidental emergencies. As for druggies, they should come last by a country mile.

The same should apply to drug use, dance parties & the like. In fact if a druggy is having a second call for overdose, & has not paid for any earlier call, it is the garbage wagon that should be called, not an ambulance.

Hasbeen,
There's a big difference between the right to medical treatment and the right to have it on standby for a particular purpose. I accept that we don't have the latter right in Australia even though the having an ambulance on standby is a requirement for some events.

Ambulances are for all who need them, not just those you deem worthy of treatment. Humans are not garbage - quite apart from the fact that failing to save those who haven't paid their bills ensures they'll never pay in future!
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individual,
Did you even read that Townsville bulletin report you linked to? It didn't even mention drugs!

Around the turn of the millennium there was a lot of concern about violence based games, but they don't seem to have resulted in more violence in real life. UIVMM the biggest link between crime and video games was a drop in the number of car thefts when Grand Theft Auto 3 was released, as the game was considered more fun than the real thing!

Bureaucracy restricting eligibility for treatment is the worst kind!

Heading back to the millennials, it's time to act to create a direction for them. Do-gooders are well advised to keep out of the picture because this needs to work.
Those millennials who are responsible enough to have work must be given the chance to become members of the part of society that works for the common good.
Those who find it difficult to find employment should be taken in by the armed forces for basic back-up & trade training, supply work & if they are capable or are interested in bettering themselves for the good of all then they MUST be given the opportunity to stay on until they find employment. In any case, staying on will only give them more chances to better themselves by way of being exposed to a group of people with a sense of responsibility.
This ball is in the present Government's court, the initiative for such a scheme can not be put off till "next term". Do it NOW, no excuses just do it ! This can work in with Centrelink & would make Centrelink be of proper use & help. This could pay social, economic & political dividends before the next federal election.

Rubbish Individual. The armed forces are for the defence of the country, not a bolt hole for the incompetent & the no hopers. The defence force has enough trouble covering the cost of equipment & personnel to do that job, with out wanting to turn it into yet another welfare hole, into which to tip money.

The defence of the country requires the very best it can find & attract, not a bunch of useless that can't perform well enough to survive in the workplace. Surely we tip enough money & effort into welfare already, without trying to contaminate other important functions.

I've got to stand with Aiden on this issue.
Everyone Aussie citizen should have a right to a basic standard of medical care when they need it.

But that doesn't mean I think people should be able to call the ambulance or home doctor 4 times a week for a kids sniffles.

Nor do I think people who put themselves at risk of harm by doing stupid things should expect others to pay for their mistakes.

There needs to be balance, value and fairness to the taxpayers that foot the bill.

Parents are largely to blame.

'Good parenting' has been reduced to the functional ability of getting the kids to and from school, sport; washing their clothes and dishes and paying for their education. Gone is the modelling for the traditional notions of purity, virtue, motherhood/fatherhood or manhood. We are seeing a cultural “earthquake” so shattering that people seem to have lost their levelheadedness, with their elected representatives blithely going along in the process.

AC,

You don't exactly stand with Aidan, who states that health care IS a right. You say there SHOULD be a right. Aidan is wrong: there is no such right. You are indulging in wishful thinking, and many people would agree with you. But, there is a lot of nonsense talked about 'right's, most of which are made up by utopians. Can anyone name a 'right' that is law and enforceable? Take the right to life, for example. It will not stop our lives from being taken if someone is determined to do us in. That person might be punished after the event, but the 'right' will not protect us. Rights are baloney.

Hasbeen, I didn't realise this was so difficult to comprehend.
No-one's suggesting that these young miseducated & unemployed are to be put in the left seat of a fighter jet, what i am suggesting is exactly what I said & that is to firstly place them into an environment of responsible other people where hopefully, some of that sense of responsibility & respect will rub off.
The armed forces aren't surely made up of top guns in every section of operation. There are always basic jobs which would be a good starting point for those many who don't seem to get the opportunity in society to become functioning members.
There's emergency work to be done, cleaning, supply of goods & dozens of other services required in maintaining the running of the country.
Surely, having young people out there doing things which many will take as an opportunity to step up is better & cheaper than paying Billions to do nothing but vegetate. Reporting to a team leader would by nature be better than reporting to some uninterested Centrelink officer.

Oooops ! I meant of course 'in the left hand seat of a military jet'

Hey ttbn,
"You don't exactly stand with Aidan, who states that health care IS a right. You say there SHOULD be a right. Aidan is wrong: there is no such right. You are indulging in wishful thinking, and many people would agree with you."

I don't? Hmmm, well I guess you successfully argued my error and earned it so ok then...

- But if I disagreed would I not be entitled the 'right to a fair trial'?

AC,

As yet, you don't have to go to trial for disagreeing:). Australia doesn't have a bill of rights, and we do not need one. My point on so-called rights is that they don't protect anyone before an event. Anyone can violate our imagined rights at any time. I have mentioned the 'right to life’ fantasy. Another one is the 'right’ to walk about anywhere, at any time, wearing very little, drunk or sober, as proclaimed by the the shriekers when an unfortunate, or foolish, girl or woman is raped.

For those who think the ADF should be involved in sorting out ratbags - bunkum! Soldering is serious business, not a substitute for parents or school. Our services have enough trouble now with senior officers seemingly more interested in getting ineffective females to join their ranks, with sex-changes for those already in, and with removing symbols of 'aggression’, for heaven's sake!

Hey ttbn,
My question "Do I have the right to a fair trial" was a question, but it wasn't really a question; it was a response to when you asked "Name a right we have..." but I'm not sure you got it.

As for 'Bill of Rights' there's probably arguments for and against, and the other things you said I have no objections.

I comprehend all too well Individual, that you have no idea of what the defence force is & does today, & probably no i9nterest either.

Every member has to be willing & capable, after basic training, of a "pier head jump", to be sent to war, a peace keeping mission, or a humanitarian relief mission at an hours notice.

In all these areas people get killed. Our people have to be able to 100% trust in the attitude, training & ability of the person beside them. They most definitely don't want stuff up people protecting their flank. You don't have to be a jet pilot to have other peoples lives in your hands.

You obviously believe most defence force people are merely targets, & their ability doesn't matter, & today nothing is further from the truth.

AC,

OK. I’ll try again. The law says that you are entitled to a fair trial - at the moment, and as long as we remain a 'rule of law’ country. That could change, so calling it a 'right’ is optimistic to say the least, given that our political class is taking less and less notice of what the electorate thinks. A mere 226 politicians in Canberra decide what we can and cannot have. Rights don't come into it.

Hasbeen,

Most people don't know much about anything these days.

Side note: did you spot any blokes in the latest TV recruitment ad for the RAN?

Hasbeen,surely it has to be clear enough by now that I'm not on about taking millennials off the street & expect them to be soldiers. As an ex military man you'd would agree that the masses of non-soldier personnel are not of the calibre that out-in-the-field people are. They are the ones I'm talking about. Basic service jobs back in the home country. goods delivery, cleaning, learning trades in workshops, anything to get them into an environment, away from the front steps of Centrelink offices. It doesn't all need to be just in the Defence Forces, it can be on farms, roads ,railwyas, local councils etc. The main issue here is to gradually instil a mentality that there's more to being a "Rights" claiming Citizen than just hanging around Centrelink. There are whole industries which should be required to absorb young people for 18 months or two years to get them away from the Welfare mentality. It won't cost as much as much as permanent Welfare both finacially & socially.
There are billions of cane Toads to be decimated, noxious weeds to be decimated, the list is long.EPA aren't doing it so give young people the opportunity to go out & experience being in the Bush. You'd be surprised how many hands would show if only being asked. It's not always about what's financially viable, it's about saving this nation from imploding because of apathy of the working class caused by the greedy. Stop thinking about today & living in yesterday. The Millennials aren't all hopeless but too many appear to be. Why ? Because the Baby Boomers & Gen Y are worse than the Millennials because they ruined it all.
Image & money is great but just look what happens when the menial task workforce stays home for day.
It's about caring not just brilliant show-off careers that do nothing for the Nation.
The Millennials have what it takes, we're just keeping the platform to ourselves & look where it has got us to.

"There are billions of cane Toads to be decimated"
Now come on mate I resent that, it's racist.
The cane toads are a perfectly good example of how 'integration' benefits us all.
Honestly, it's totally insensitive in this day and age.
How do you think the cane toads might feel about your racism and hate speech.
I just don't know where this country's headed anymore.

"It won't cost as much as much as permanent Welfare both finacially & socially."
I agree, and it's along the lines of what I've been trying to say for sometime.
There has to be a better way.

Now your talking Individual. No more unemployment benefits, but a job in a land army, out in the bush for dole money.

A nice camp far far away, one month on one month off, all keep supplied. Hell it might even suit many, at least the ones not actually working a couple of days undeclared a week. We might get something back for our sit down money.

Just don't ask the defence force to run it, give it to some mean old buggers mike me.

A little story you might like ttbn.

My son was engineer on a navy ship. He complained bitterly about the quality of the stokers, [mechanics] he was getting, with at least half of them not safe to touch machinery, if you wanted it to run again.

That was the blokes, I could not repeat his description of the lady stokers coming out of training. He decided to give a demonstration of their uselessness.

They were overhauling one of the large diesel generators ships require, & had to send the cylinder heads off to be machined. There were 8 cylinder heads, & as each one came off he detailed 2 stokers to each head to take them down to the wharf to be transported to the machine shop. This is a laborious business requiring traversing about 75 metres of corridors plus ascending 4 decks before descending to the wharf. It took a couple of hours to get each down to the wharf.

Not so the ladies. The heads were heavier than 2 ladies combined were allowed to lift, or infact actually lift, & there is not enough room for more to fit to do the job. They had to use block & tackles & trolleys, at each water tight door, & along each companionway. It took them 3 days to get one out onto the wharf.

Luckily by then, some were finished, & arriving back. He detailed the ladies to bring one back to the engine.

In retrospect he decided this had been a great idea. Not only had it demonstrated the stupidity of sending a boy on a mans job, [in this case girls], it had kept them busy for 6 days, saving much unnecessary close supervision of them. He found it was quicker to do a job himself, than apply the very close supervision the ladies required to prevent dangerous mistakes.

Better still, they requested & were granted transfers.

Yes he's a misogynous pig, but the navy keep calling him back to do reserve time, because he can make their old ship go. Not many can.

Good story, Hasbeen. Do they allow the girls on the reserve list, or is there a once-bitten-twice-shy policy on the sisters?

We really should make the Millennials dilemma an election issue.
Ever since Rudd gave all the kids a laptop before they even got close to deserving one, ignorant academics such as Rudd have caused the Millennials to believe everything should be free. Working & paying taxes is something other people do.