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Has the UN Just Lost it Completelt ?

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Dear Is Mise,

A chemical attack every month this year so far would not be my definition of success but as a Trump supporter you will obviously have a different metric.

At one stage the US had nearly 1000 nuclear weapons situated on the Korean Peninsula. These were gradually withdrawn as the umbrella was replaced by submarines and long range nuclear equipped bombers from Guam which regularly fly near the border.

“Nuclear free” would mean visits by a nuclear armed US Navy would cease and air operations halted, something the North Koreans have been demanding for many years.

By the way Moon Jae-in did not say Trump should get the Nobel Prize but rather when asked if he himself deserved it he replied;

“President Trump can take the Nobel prize. The only thing we need is peace.”

Which is a far cry from saying Trump really deserves it, more that if this process comes off and Trump accedes to Kim's demands and the North and South end up in peace then Trump can have the darn thing if that is what it takes.

Finally I did enjoy this little story;

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/trump-dictated-former-doctor-s-letter-praising-his-health-report?cid=trending
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 9:23:28 PM
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Sorry that should have been mhaze.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 9:51:26 PM
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You are absolutely correct Steele. US posturing post WWII has been one of belligerence, and that includes the Korean Peninsula. The United States postwar revised its foreign policy from being one of a prewar isolationists, with a limited sphere of influence, although covert operations particularly in Central and South America were common. The US quickly become a direct aggressor who required little provocation to undertake either overt military action in places such as Korea and Vietnam, or covert operations launched by the CIA in many countries.
World War Three, the so called 'Cold War' cost in excess of 20 million lives and was the longest running modern war in history. The victor in WWIII was undoubtedly the United States, as it had been the supreme victor in WWII, and to a lesser extent WWI.
When it comes to the Cold War the US claimed that it was acting in ways to counter communist expansion, and local instability, that is true. What is also true is the US was acting at the same time to protect the assets and operations of thousands of its own transnational corporations, which have trillions of dollars worth of investments, throughout the world. Today there are new enemies, and a few old ones, that the US sees as necessary to deal with, North Korea included. China and Russia are going to be tougher nuts to crack, but Trump is working on that at the moment.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 3 May 2018 5:57:11 AM
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SR,

Well that didn't go so well,did it?

"At one stage the US had nearly 1000 nuclear weapons situated on the Korean Peninsula."

I suspected that you didn't initially know this which is why you were going on about Kim wanting a Nuke Free peninsula. So now your assertion is that the only thing the US needs to do is not send any nuke armed equipment into the region and Kim will give up his programme? And you wonder why I think that's rubbish.

Kim's only aim is to preserve his government. Anyone with a passing understanding of the Korean past knows this. And the task for Trump (with the help of Xi) is to convince him he can have what he wants if, and only if, he gives up his nuclear ambitions.

That's going to be a tall order but Trump is closer than anyone has been in the past 30 years. And he's there because of the successes of his policies.

You wrote :"By the way Moon Jae-in did not say Trump should get the Nobel Prize..."

Well that's open to interpretation. But he hasn't hasten to clarify his comments. What about this one...

"In January, Mr Moon said Mr Trump "deserves big credit for bringing about the inter-Korean talks. It could be a resulting work of the US-led sanctions and pressure"."

You wrote :"Finally I did enjoy this little story;"

Yes I'm sure you enjoy all the snippets of fake news that comes out of the anti-Trump camp.

I on the other hand enjoyed this one this morning...

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/02/reuters-poll-black-male-approval-for-trump-doubles-in-one-week/
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 3 May 2018 2:35:49 PM
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the UN is to busy dreaming up resolutions against the only civilised country in the Middle East (Israel) to be concerned about real threats. Even their own 'peacekeepers' have been into raping and pillaging the less fortunate. Oh sorry its only when deviants in the church that do this stuff that attracts the lefites attention.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 May 2018 2:58:07 PM
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runner I see your number three is off to face charges. Interesting.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 3 May 2018 8:21:00 PM
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