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Recent US School Shooting

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Dear mhaze,

Stephen Baskerville served as the president of the American Coalition of Fathers and Children, hardly an impartial source.

Let's have a look at his and your contention using your logic.

The vast majority of mass shooters are white. The Children in single-parent families rates for non-Hispanic whites is around 25%. But for non-Hispanic Blacks it is 67%.

67% is very close to the 75% figure Baskerville touts for mass shooters who are from fatherless families. But non-Hispanic blacks are far less likely to be involved in a mass shootings compared to their population ratio.

The ultimate conclusion of course is the being white is a primary precursor to the development of a mass shooter, markedly more than the family situation.

Wouldn't you agree?

Dear Is Mise,

Oh just stop. Not a single bloody word from you about stronger gun regulations which are a proven way to reduce the number of mass shootings. Deflect, deflect, deflect. Sure the things you mention may play their part but nothing like controlling assault styled weapons.

As to arming school staff this particular 'resource officer' was a military veteran of 6 years with SWAT training. Should that now be the minimum requirement for being employed at a school?

What a warped world you are trying to create for us.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 11:06:58 PM
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Will those in the front line, i.e. school staff be allowed to defend themselves?

Tssy, the latest thinking on that score, as championed by Field Marshall Haig. A week of bombardment with heavy cannon should see the enemy completely demoralized. Then we shall send a million men 'over the top' into 'No Mans Land', and within hours the enemies trenchers will be ours!

Seems as sensible a plan as yours!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 4:57:04 AM
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Steele,

Then, in your opinion, what is the short-term solution?
The solution for the teacher confronted by a killer in the near future?

Controlling "assault type weapons" is going to take a long time and with current trends a lot of dead kids and teachers.

Perhaps you might also inform us how the magical stronger gun regulation is going to be enforced in the US, how long it will take and the expected compliance rate?

Give us all the benefits of your deep thinking.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 7:35:40 AM
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The only reason a population is allowed guns is to kill other people. There is very little threat from wildlife. Australia has a successful policy on guns. 1. Restrict the availability of ammunition. 2. Remove the right of any citizen to have guns. 3. Have police and security the only ones allowed to carry loaded fire arms. 4. Secure all schools and search persons entering for guns and knives. It has always been an offense in Australia to enter a school with a knife or weapon. I can remember in the 1950's a boy in high School being expelled and charged for bringing a knife to school. America has moved on from the wild west so their constitution needs to change to represent a civilized society. Then only illegal held by criminals and trained security would be able to carry firearms, and with sniffer dogs identify concealed ammunition.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 12:21:41 PM
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Josephus,

" It has always been an offense in Australia to enter a school with a knife or weapon".

Where did you get that from?

When I went to school most of the lads had a pocket knife and at the only country school that I attended (1941-1942) it was common for the kids that were running trap lines on the way to and from school, to bring their.22 rifles with them and leave them with the Head Teacher during school hours.
Then there were the School Cadets who had .303 Service rifles and brought them to school on training days.

Just out of curiosity, how would you protect kids and teachers from an attacker, not some time in the distant future, but next week?

"The only reason a population is allowed guns is to kill other people."

Is that so?

Just where is this place?

Here in Australia, people are allowed to have guns for target shooting, clay pigeon shooting, Western Action, IPSC, feral animal control, farm use (putting down sick/injured stock rtc.), hunting feral and game animals and not forgetting historical re-enactments and collecting firearms of thematic or historical value.

There are multiple reasons.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 12:56:26 PM
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Dear Is mise,

Bloody hell mate you need to give it a rest with your inane question. Every time you receive an answer you dismiss it and roll the thing out again like you are a Tourettes sufferer.

Here is another answer for you, you move your police force buildings into the schools to protect them. And another, you disband all smaller schools that are too expensive to protect and you enforce home schooling on the students who can't attend larger and better protected facilities. And another, you bring back all the military personnel which the US has stationed overseas (something Trump touted anyway) and you set them the task of protecting the schools.

Now go for it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 4:40:15 PM
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