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OFFICIAL FAKE NEWS

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"Australian Federal Police Caught Out With Fake News

By Michael Gibson | 14 March 2018

From the minute the claim was made that the AFP had made a 5600 firearm haul, firearm owners were calling fake news.

The SSAA Legislative Action department exposed exaggerated gun seizure claims made by the Australian Federal Police and former Justice Minister Michael Keenan in June of 2017, sending a powerful reminder that we will not tolerate misinformation being spread about firearms.

AFP commissioner Andrew Colvin finally confirmed to Senator David Leyonhjelm last month, in the presence of SSAA-LA representatives, that the majority of the 5600 guns allegedly seized (and announced twice, adding further confusion) were mainly parts or frames. Just six were fully operational guns. Most were seized in America.

But what came as a shock to the SSAA, was the revelation that the AFP does not distinguish between a firearm and a firearm part: a firearm part is recorded as a functioning firearm. “In total, that operation (Operation Ironsight) resulted in the seizure of 5088 firearms, including parts – we don’t necessarily distinguish between a full firearm and a part,” Mr Colvin said. This raises concerns about the level of data the AFP is collating and offers insight into why the 5600 figure claim was outrageously overstated.

See the full article at SSAA ."
http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/latest/australian-federal-police-caught-out-with-fake-news

One is left wondering just which other Government Departments are also imaginative in their public utterances?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 18 March 2018 6:09:25 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

Bloody dreadful articles in those links but leaving that aside it seems you are contending that instead of a flood of imported firearms entering the country the criminal classes would appear to be arming themselves with mainly domestic firearms acquired through theft or the black market in non-surrendered weapons.

Happy to run with that.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 18 March 2018 8:25:32 PM
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Steele,

The subject matter, in this case guns, is completely immaterial; what's material is that a Government Department, this time the Federal Police have lied to the Minister and to their employers, the general public.

Is this a one off aberration or does it go on all the time; how many other departments are justifying their existence by lies?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 18 March 2018 9:08:34 PM
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Quote - "Is this a one off aberration or does it go on all the time"

Anyone want to bet the Victoria police are doing creative bookkeeping with the crime figures they claim are going down.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 18 March 2018 9:21:45 PM
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Yep, I'd say most government departments have some members attending creative writing courses at our finest universities.

Probably not as many as they would like though I expect. Most of the courses would be almost fully subscribed by members of the Greens, along with the CSIRO & the Bureau of Meteorology.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 18 March 2018 9:59:08 PM
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//The subject matter, in this case guns, is completely immaterial; what's material is that a Government Department, this time the Federal Police have lied to the Minister//

Well they're not the only ones telling porkies, are they? Did anybody read the full article? This was the last sentence:

"We are willing and ready to provide advice and feedback about sensible, fair and evidence-based firearms laws."

Sensible, fair and evidence-based advice about firearm laws from these nutters? Yeah, sure fellas, and I'm the Queen of Sheba.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 19 March 2018 5:02:05 AM
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