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Citizenship Minister, Alan Tudge, points out that migrants are failing to integrate and develop proficient English skills. (ABC) They used to, but they don't any more. They live in their own cultural bubbles.

It's a pity Mr. Tudge and his colleagues were too thick to realise that the types of people they have been importing since people like us lost interest in coming here were never going to fit in because of their totally alien cultures. They did not come here because they wanted to fit in!

If Tudge now thinks he can solve a problem that he and the rest of the Australian political class themselves caused, he is very much mistaken. It's too late now.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 8 March 2018 8:07:20 AM
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//the law is not strictly applied because to do so would cause trouble//

It would be in the case of SLAVERY, Is Mise. To not do so would cause a hell of a lot more trouble. In an effective judicial system, justice must not only be done: it must be seen to be done.

If a case of slavery in 21st century Australia were to come before the courts, it would be hugely sensational and shocking. The press would be all over it like ants at a picnic. And not just the Australian press. The eyes of the world would be upon us, watching and seeing what we did.

What the courts would not do would be to give the perpetrator a slap on the wrist because slavery is traditional.

The perpetrator would be tried punished under a system of 'customary law', specifically the English common law system we inherited from the Brits. If he wasn't, the excrement would hit the fan in a big way.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Thursday, 8 March 2018 8:53:59 AM
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Dear Paul,

«Yuyutsu, how do you score yourself, a big fat zero? You lost me when you wanted to maintain laws which denied rights to gay people.»

When reading my various posts on the topic of SSM, were you aware that I equally want to deny those particular so-called "rights" from everyone, including heterosexuals?

I wrote, not once or twice, that the Marriage Act needs to be abolished, so how can you say that I wanted to maintain it?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 8 March 2018 11:00:03 AM
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'People like you are apologists for the disgusting behaviour of the clergy towards young children.'

no Paul, people like you are incapable of telling the truth. Your hatred of almost anything decent completely blinds you. No doubt you banged on about your concern for refugees as another one of your failed dogmas ended up in over a thousand being drowned. Spare me your sickening 'compassion'. You are blinded and hard hearted largely caused by your hatred.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 8 March 2018 3:47:07 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

«You are wrong about me. I have no tolerance of 'diversity' at all.»

Nevertheless, the fact that you even talk with me, politely, who am not from your culture, awards you this minimal score of one out of ten: there are others, as you know, who are less tolerant than yourself and would have drawn a knife instead.

«The fools who decided to change the face of the West by bringing in inappropriate immigrants, despite all the advice against it, thought that diverse cultures were going to settle in and act like us.»

If that was indeed what they thought, then indeed they were fools: myself, I wouldn't encourage immigration or entertain such delusions, but I also recognise that nobody has a moral right to forcibly prevent others from entering and living in a whole continent without a very compelling reason (such as serious terrorism, health or crime risks). One doesn't have to welcome everyone who comes, one is not obliged to offer them welfare, healthcare and such benefits, but any person who is half decent may not kick others out without truly compelling reasons and I do not consider "they will form their own ghettos" to be a sufficiently compelling reason.

«As for you, Yuyutsu, I don't have a clue where you came from, but you certainly have some very peculiar ideas on life and society.»

I could not fit in the culture where I was born, so I moved to Australia, thus it doesn't matter where I came from - I do not identify with any particular group, I think for myself.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 8 March 2018 4:31:57 PM
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Yuyutsu,

I am glad that you are comfortable in Australia and feel that you can express your opinions irrespective of what I or anyone else thinks.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 8 March 2018 6:47:34 PM
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