FH... not ego mate.. but important security measure, given that I've received certain suggestive communications of a 'worrisome' nature in the past. You said 'as long as I'm not armed'.. and that was your (probably teasing) grabber..well.. the phone camera bit was mine :)

I can see you are squirming there a bit, either you listened and found it threatening, and decided to try for new debating territory now, or you didn't listen and are simply trying to focus on what you believe are your strengths. But if you HAD listened, you would not have taken that approach so please listen first.

PERICLES.
You could also download this file into a memory stick which could be played in an ipod I'm fairly sure, (not 100%)

Now.. I just this moment (11:30am) found some highly relevant information about 'why' it is so important.
Jay Smith is a debater of very adventurous proportions. He produces both warmth and hatred from the Muslim community, he debates at Universities, and at 'Speakers Corner' in London. He also befriended a Muslim through these debates and then saw his picture later as a suicide bomber !... Check out this link and read the full story (not long)
http://a4theroad.blogspot.com/2005/09/jay-smith-islam-and-christianity-clash.html

The observations he made of those giving a hand up for willingness to do the same thing, (prior to London bombings) are very telling considering what actually happened..
Have a nice day/blessings.

Pericles (and FH)

I found a transcript.. documentation of the major points Jay Smith makes here:

http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/debate/debate.htm

Of particular interest is the occurrence of 'Rabinnical' additions to Biblical stories, in the Quran. ie. Mohammad acquired these stories from Rabinical sources not revelation. The fact that he has included the stories as he did, and the existence of verifiable sources showing the 'real' story (biblical) (all prior to Islam by the way) show a lot about the supposed 'revelations' of the Quran.

Goto the link 'Talmudic sources in the Quran'
http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/debate/part2.htm#C2

Finally... Truth, and the work of the Holy Spirit are as real today as in Pauls. Jay shares about a young Muslim man as follows:

Smith briefly shared that he has met two young men who were very strong Muslims of good reputation who recently became Christians who might be Paul's who can reach the Muslims.

One of them had read an article by Smith and received the Gospel of John to read. He read how Jesus responded on the Cross. He thought about how Muhammad lead military campaigns. Because of this tension, he became a Christian.

(Comment: and this is exactly why I point out such things here, not out of hate for Muslims, but out of pastoral concern for their eternal destiny)

The other man Smith met used to watch videos of Smith and then teach Islamic youths that Smith was wrong. He was working in a Mosque when he heard a voice saying, "This is Jesus, follow me." He eventually became a Christian.

Boazy,

You are either getting desperate or just tired:-)

I can't believe you resorted to that old mythology "Quran copied from the Bible" that missionaries invented to mislead the faithful.

A Muslim scholar went through the old scripture in detail and came up with 116 (1-1-6) arguments on how the above is a total fabrication:
Start my friend:
http://www.islamicinvitationcentre.com/articles/Introduction/Quran/Proofs_Quran.html

Can't we just be different Boazy? I mean why do we have to be 'wrong' so you can be right?

Peace as always,

Part 1

Sorry for not responding sooner, Pericles, but I’ve not been on-line for a few days. At the great risk of insulting you (as you seem to be so thin-skinned and take any criticism as an insult – just like your muslim friends), I will ignore your latest outburst of “pants on fire” as a sign of immaturity. As you would write, “you can do better than that” and hold a “civilised discussion”.

All I pointed out was that when you wrote that you were “there, actually there”, this inferred that you were more than just in the same country. I, and I’m sure others, read that as you were in London at the time.

Anyway, you since stated that, in the matter of noisy imams, most English people ignore them. This is part of the disease. It’s not a case of ignore them and they’ll go away. Ignore them at your peril as they will take that as a sign that they’re getting away with their outburst and rack it up a notch. Over the past few years, the Brits have been conditioned, by the PC Labour party, to accept imams making murderous accusations against the West (where they have asylum) while viewing any criticism against them as “islamophobic”. That term is actually in use over there.

Also, the British culture is under attack from the muslims, as anything deemed offensive to them is removed even if it’s a part of the majority culture. Christmas decorations are curtailed. Even high street banks have been told not to display “piggy” banks in their windows for fear of offending a passing muslim. Police conducting house searches are instructed to remove their shoes before entering muslim houses and not to arrive at prayer times. There are many, many more examples of this sort of censorship of the native British culture

Part 2

Already, this is beginning to happen here, with day care centres not being allowed to celebrate Christian festivals for fear of offending the children of immigrants. At the same time, we have multicultural messages shoved down our throats. Look at the Cronulla riots where top cops tried to tell us that the blame lay with “racist” Australians who dared to display our own flag. If a Palestinian flag was flown, the multi-culti advocates would be telling us to celebrate diversity. You surely can’t think that that is nothing to worry about. Unless you are, yourself, a muslim or a raging loony leftist.

I don’t have “an utterly irrational fear of Muslims”. I practise martial arts with one and there are a couple of muslims at my local shooting club. As far as I can tell, these people are not fundamentalists. Fundamentalists worry me, not the secular minority. BTW, the daleks never scared me…it was the cybermen.

JSP1488,

“anything deemed offensive to them is removed even if it’s a part of the majority culture. Christmas decorations are curtailed. Even high street banks have been told not to display “piggy” banks in their windows for fear of offending a passing muslim”

Let me stop you there for a second: I am a Muslim, my daughters have ‘piggy banks’ and they have “Babe” on DVD. We just don’t eat pig meat just like the Jewish people. If someone else is creating needless sensitivity why is it Muslims problem? Just like the Christmas: for followers of Christianity to celebrate Christmas or Easter carries no meaning to us. We just don’t celebrate them.

Same as with flags, we are all Australians regardless of background and the flag belongs to everyone.

Peace,