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HRC Surprise for Yassmin Abdel-Magied
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 4:05:39 AM
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//For me it was YAM's taxpayer funded trip to countries with some of the worst human rights records, and the worst treatment of women, and returning with glowing reports and the "Islam is most feminist religion" quote that completely shredded her credibility.//
Oh yeah, no doubt that it was stupid thing to say. The most feminist religions are clearly the varieties of neo-Paganism that were pretty much invented by feminists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goddess_movement As one the Abrahamic religions, Islam is right down near the bottom of the list of feminist religions. What she said was daft, and demonstrably incorrect. But there's no law against making stupid remarks, or ex-Senator Malcolm Roberts would be serving about 15 consecutive life sentences by now. Being in error does not breach any human rights legislation that I know of. Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 6:52:51 AM
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Toni,
For YAM to qualify well as an engineer she is far from stupid and was more than aware of what she said. She achieved exactly the notoriety that was required to get her on the cover of Vogue for teens and guarantee a healthy stream of interviews and cash, knowing well that being black, muslim and female, that she could get away with pretty much anything. As for what complaint she faced, I can find no trace, and so am not able to comment. However, given the AHRC's track record I don't expect more than a perfunctory examination before it is dismissed. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 11:01:32 AM
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No one knows what Yassmin said that caused the complaint but we all know that that the complaint must have been frivolous because the HRC and the Anti-discrimination board weren't designed or meant to catch people like her.
The only people supposed to be bought up on charges are white males who we all know are universally bigoted racists. And lo and behold, in record time the complaint has been resolved and Yassmin is off the hook. Wow what a surprise. I bet the poor bastards from the QUT wished the bureaucracy worked that swiftly in their case. But white males and all that...what else could they expect? I noticed SR mentioned Giffords and Cox, both shootings blamed on right-wing figures on totally spurious grounds. But he somehow forgot to mention the Scalise shooting (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/alexandria-virginia-shooting/index.html) which was carried out by a supporter of the somewhat far left. I don't know why SR forgot that one, but it wouldn't be because of bias or anything. No, Sireee! Just slipped his mind.... so I thought I'd help out. Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 1:05:30 PM
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//For YAM to qualify well as an engineer she is far from stupid//
You are kidding, right? I've met some amazingly thick engineers in my time. Just because people are good at maths, it doesn't follow that they have good judgement. //knowing well that being black, muslim and female, that she could get away with pretty much anything.// Again, I'm not sure that sticking your foot in your mouth is really criminal behaviour, so I'm not sure that she can really be said to have 'got away' with anything - otherwise we'll have to start calling Malcolm Roberts 'the artful dodger'. //No one knows what Yassmin said that caused the complaint but we all know that that the complaint must have been frivolous because the HRC and the Anti-discrimination board weren't designed or meant to catch people like her.// Well, no. They're only meant to catch people that have actually breached discrimination legislation, not people that vexatious litigants have taken a dislike to. //white males who we all know are universally bigoted racists.// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKHq-mAEQlU Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 2:32:48 PM
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Sorry, missed this bit.
//I noticed SR mentioned Giffords and Cox, both shootings blamed on right-wing figures on totally spurious grounds.// From wikipedia: "Thomas Alexander Mair, a 52-year-old unemployed gardener born in Scotland, had a long history of mental health problems. He believed liberals, leftists and the mainstream media were the cause of the world's problems. He targeted Cox, a "passionate defender" of the European Union and immigration, because he saw her as "one of 'the collaborators' [and] a traitor" to white people. Mair had links to right-wing political groups including the National Front and the English Defence League; he had attended far-right gatherings and purchased far-right publications, to some of which he had sent letters. In his home were found Nazi regalia, far-right books, and information on the construction of bombs." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jo_Cox#Perpetrator Yeah, he doesn't sound right-wing at all. [sarcasm] Let me guess... this is some new conspiracy theory I haven't heard of involving a second gunman who was really responsible for Jo Cox's murder, who was actually a hired assassin in the employ of George Soros as part of a nefarious ploy to discredit far-right nutjobs. XD Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 3:01:53 PM
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Compared to your phony and clearly partisan arguments you make runner look like the paragon of logic and reason.
Again you are using the measure of the pub test where your pissed old mates will agree with anything you say instead of the measure of what can be proved in court beyond a reasonable doubt. So stop being a twat and actually use reason and logic.
The very first hurdle is that "that through those actions, you intended the other person to fear physical or mental harm", which is a significant hurdle to prove criminal action as you have to prove that the intent of what GC posted was to intimidate and that there is no other reasonable explanation.
Given that it was a rip off of a Clint Eastwood movie scene, posted on his website (not on anyone else's) and addressed to a vague and undefined target, the explanation of a bad joke is extremely plausible, at which the entire case crumbles.
Perhaps you could use your logic and reason to work out what YAM meant by "Islam is the most feminist religion", as she was the object of the thread and not GC.