Issy, you are the one that advocates guns for all, both here and in the US. You see the US as the perfect model for a gun toting society, which Australia should become. You make a mockery of gun deaths by selfishly refusing to accept any type of gun control. Happy with mass shootings, as long as it does not impinge on your perverse pleasurable pastime.

Paul,

"You make a mockery of gun deaths by selfishly refusing to accept any type of gun control."

Not so, you've read where I said that I adhere to and respect Australia's gun laws, even though some of them are downright stupid.

"Happy with mass shootings, as long as it does not impinge on your perverse pleasurable pastime."

No, Paul, that's the Greens who can't wait for the next tragedy to push their wheelbarrow, can't even wait for the blood to dry.
However, seeing as you are so knowledgeable, how could a teacher, faced by an armed murderer, save self and the children?

Foxy, Toni and Stelle, you can answer too, don't be shy, your combined knowledge and sagasity could shew US Legislators the way forward.

Issy, I and others have pointed out yhat there is no quick fix to the systemic problem the US has now with out of control gun deaths. It is utter nonsense to believe that the simplistic approach of arming even more civilians to counter an already over armed population would work, Dodge City nonsense. Yes, it may prevent an isolated nutter sometime somewhere, but at what cost. I see even more innocents being wasted through accidents, and in some cases misadventure from rough teachers, or the wrong person getting their hands on a state issued gun.

America now needs to follow countries like Australia and introduce truly effective gun control laws, until they do, mass deaths will continue.

Good to see you support our gun laws. You must believe that without such laws there would be a problem. Full circle, we are now back to the situation in the USA, where they don't have such tough gun laws.

//In case you've not noticed a driver's licence is not required... to drive a car.//

O... kay.

If I know you, you'll have some daft hair-splitting excuse for this claim like licences only being required on public roads (i.e. where the public drive). I look forward to it.

But I'm already convinced, we should do away with them. Think of all the joy it would bring! Young hotheads itching to get behind the wheel without any dumb driving lessons, because, like, what can some old person teach them that you can't just look up on your phone, duh? And imagine a world where you never have to worry about being done for dangerous driving, because they can't revoke the licence you don't have. It'll be awesome, like Mad Max but with fewer freaks.

//So the analogy is like your sick joke, way off.//

What sick joke? Is that the joke that you didn't get, and couldn't cajole me to explain for you despite your incessant whining?

Does a joke necessarily become offensive if you don't get it and can't get anyone to explain it for you? I have to say I find that an odd notion: until somebody has explained to you what 'taking tea with the parson' actually involves, you just know that it's kind of smutty and it all seems like harmless fun. It's only after you've had the details explained that it comes disturbingly offensive.

Toni, you can drive in Vanuatu on the public road without a licence, well you can't, but you can. Should see the condition of their vehicles, not good for a panel beater, nobody needs one, do your own.
They have road rules to, but when I asked a driver not wearing his seat belt, do you have a problem with getting a ticket, He said "No". I said "Why is that?" Well, we have no road policia mana, that's good. The main road rule is you take your life in your hands every time you get in a vehicle with someone, or behind the wheel.