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Fraud and Multiculturalism

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@ttbn your comment: 'like in Melbourne true crime figures among immigrants (often muslims) are hidden and fiddled with.'
is false. The reason: they are not collected. The reason they are not collected is a problem of correct identification.
But we can infer that crime among migrants is by no means as great as you seem to believe. The work that has been done on the background of prisoners suggests that migrants are either more law abiding than the rest of the population are better at not getting caught. Nationally about 25% of the population is born overseas - if there was criminality among migrants you would expect incarceration rates of at least 25% - in fact it is about 10%.
Posted by BAYGON, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 8:39:18 AM
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So apart from the contribution of colourful figures for the Underbelly series what does multicultural mean?
Well it means you can give a failed mono culture a positive spin by calling it multicultural....another artificial word to describe that which does not exist.
When people travel to a country for a better life they seek to become as much of the social fabric as possible.....unless they incur a great deal of difficulty in doing so.
They bring their customs, social values, religion with them.
Did anyone at immigration say they couldn't....No!
Did anyone at immigration tell them they had to obey the laws of the land otherwise no entry?....No?
Did immigration place any pre requisites regarding their behaviour....No?
So what are you all bleating about?
The fact that immigration (politicians) had no idea as to what sudden influx would do to the the existing social fabric in Australia society wants to blame the immigrants.
A mouse doesn't care which hole gains it entry into the land of plenty and neither do immigrants chasing free cheese.
Incompetent management based on little or no understanding gives you what you've got. Throwing free money at immigrants only alienates the citizens, with resentment and disharmony being the end result.
A smile costs nothing, but gets a lot, as regards to social integration.
Financial abuse occurs because of political staffing incompetence.
If a politician can steal then it's OK for all to steal, whether with menace or by slight of hand, it's still stealing
Rewarding incompetent politicians is worse than stealing in that it destabilizes social perception to a point where any legal reference regarding social order is lost, and it is also a sign of a phlegmatic society that allows it.

One law for all, or no law for any.
Posted by Special Delivery, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 11:21:13 AM
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My comment, Baygon? Where did I make that comment on this thread?

Why would anyone listen to you when you attribute comments to people who did not actually make them?
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:05:35 PM
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If Special Delivery, migrants came looking for a better life with more opportunity, your ideas might be true. This was the case with our immigration until the far left got control of it about 25 years ago.

When like middle eastern & African migrants of today, they come looking only for the gravy train of welfare hand outs, it most definitely is not.

That is the problem today. In Foxy's time, they got a room in a migrant shelter, & a job. From there it was all up to them. Apply that same policy to the bludgers we have flooding the country, & most will stop coming. We get the criminal gangs of "African" appearance in Melbourne, & the inter racial wars of Logan in Brisbane, with multiculturalism.

Only a fool would try to pretend this is not happening. My son-in-law's mother is not game to leave her house, other than in a locked car, through remote controlled gates in Penrith, NSW because of marauding gangs of youth of "African" appearance.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:06:33 PM
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Special Delivery,

And, the really bad thing about all this is that Australians were never asked whether or not they wanted multiculturalism because the political spivs, with their global networking, knew the answer would be NO. So, they did it, knowing that the Australian electorate can't be 'bothered with politics' unless the price of beer goes up.

Multiculturalism and mass immigration are all about votes for our crooked politicians.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:12:03 PM
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ttbn,

Australia is often described as a successful multicultural
society. And it is, on the whole, in the sense that most
people from all different backgrounds live together in
harmony. Those that can't do that will be punished under
the rule of law that we have in this country.

Within an institutional framework that preserves tolerance
and protects order we can celebrate and enjoy diversity.
But we couldn't do that without the framework which guarantees
the freedom to enjoy diversity.

It is therefore important that newcomers to this land realise
that there are certain beliefs - democratic beliefs that we
are all obliged to follow. To respect the rights and liberty
of others and to respect the rule of law.

Unless we have a consensus of support about how we aill
form our legislatures and an agreement to abide by its laws,
none of us will be able to enjoy our rights and liberties
without being threatened by others. We have a compact to
live under a democratic legislature and obey the laws it makes.
In doing this the rights and liberties of all are protected.

We are asking people who live in this country
to subscribe to a framework that
can protect the rights and liberties of all.
These are Australian
values and we are very clear on this point. They are not
optional. We expect all those who live in this country to
subscribe to them. Loyalty, democracy, tolerance, the rule of
law, values worth promoting, values worth defending.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 7:07:11 PM
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