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Australian Communists in WWII

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ALTRAV ,
Re your statement below
"you have not responded to the 'confirmed' claims of your disgusting treasonous lot of commo mates, the warfies, and them holding the supply ships back from leaving to restock our troops abroad."

I too knew of this blocking of supplies to our troops,when the Japanese were coming
down through the Isands to the North of Australia.
Their reasoning was, that Japan was only attacking because it was the fault of
America. ( sound familiar). They said that America had put an embargo on supplying
oil to Japan and this is why Japan was attacking us. They didnt however, say, why America had done that. I dont think they counted the Chinese deaths as meaning any thing.

In the Late 1930s, in the years before world war 2 started, Japan had invaded China
and took the Manchuria Railway and Manchurian goldmine, killing miliions of Chinese
in the process. In an attempt to stop the slaughter, the Americans wouldnt supply them with the oil and fuel they needed to run their tanks and war machines.

But contrary to the leftist thinking, that America was at fault, back in Japan they had mapped out plans in the years before they joined Hitler. They called these plans, "Invasion for the Greater Good and advancement of Asia," or something to that effect.
They told the Japanese people this, to make it sound like they were conquering all the surrounding countries for the benefit of all.

But as far as the left unionist wharfies were concerned it was all the fault of America.
This is exactly how the left filter everything today, no matter what the truth is, its always the fault of America.
Also, my Dad was a young man at the time of the second world war, and he says he remembers the wharfies blocking supplies to our troops. I never heard it from him originally, but when I spoke of it one time, he said, "I remember that!"
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:14:19 PM
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Cherful, unless you are about 100 years old, you have no personal knowledge of what you claim. It may be true, so where did you get that from? Lets have a look at some history.

Granted, the Roosevelt administration's attitude to Japanese expansionism in Asia was cool to say the least, and there was in a limited way a pro British slant. Many in Congress, were Isolationists and believed America had no business in Asia. America had a long standing commercial treaty with Japan. Japan was freely purchasing aircraft engines and aviation fuel from the US until January 1940, when then it become necessary for Japan to apply on a case by case basis to purchase any considered strategic materials. There was never a compete oil embargo placed by the US on Japan. In July 1940 the US made things tougher for Japan, where it was forced to seek a licence to purchase aircraft engines and some other war materials from US manufactures. Also in July 1940 the US placed an embargo on the export of 86 octane aircraft fuel to Japan, but the Japanese had anticipated this and had found a way to operate their aircraft using 76 octane. Roosevelt did not believe a complete oil embargo would be effective against Japan. Having this to say;

"The real answer which you cannot use is that if we forbid oil shipments to Japan, Japan will increase her purchases of Mexican oil and furthermore, may be driven by actual necessity to a descent on the Dutch East Indies. At this writing, we all regard such action on our part as an encouragement to the spread of war in the Far East."
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 4:01:16 AM
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ALTRAV,

You have made assertions that wharfies holding up food supplies to the troops in New Guinea caused your father-in-law to have a constant health problem.
Given the complexity of food supply in the New Guinea area, as outlined in the links given, do you not think that he may have been mistaken?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 10:00:15 AM
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Is Mise, of this fact I am certain. Because he was a forward radio observation post, ie; he was somewhere out the front and high up so he could have a clear view of any approaching enemy by sea or air.

His location was in typically thick jungle so as to not be seen, with very little or nothing in the way of comfort accessories. He had to be invisible. I don't know how they got food and supplies to him because of him 'hiding' on the edge of the jungle.

I'm not sure what you mean by a 'constant health problem'. Once he was operated on and half his stomach removed, I don't think he had any 'constant health problems'.

But I imagine one of P1405's uncles can elaborate as he worked on the supply boats re stocking the troops from the supply ships when they arrived in port in New Guinea and then deliver them up the river to certain locations, by smaller boats.

BTW, the 'holding up the supply ships' was not an ascertain but a proven by records and media of the day. Other commentors have come forth with links, publications and proof of these events as well.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 10:24:11 AM
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In the meantime, Hal Colebatch is serenely contributing excellent articles to The Spectator and probably planning another book, totally unaware of his learned critics who have just picked up on the book five years after he wrote it.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 11:19:55 AM
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Seems to me that, "When you can't solve today's problems re masticate yesterdays" and call it historical relevance.
Posted by Special Delivery, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 3:59:39 PM
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