P1405, you are talking war time, not in piece time. The guards at POW camps, immediately put their guns and bayonets aside the moment they received word of the end of the war.

They just left. They didn't open fire on the prisoners as I think you would have us believe. There will always be a certain amount of rejection from the losers in such events as wars.

Neither of these two countries would have treated the allies with malice or mal-intent, once the war was over. It just would not be allowed to happen.

Only the Australians with an open mind would agree with me. Anyone else with a right mind or left mind like yourself, will see it just as you do.

Don't confuse war with piece. there were atrocities on ALL sides. Yes even us. There had to be, humans are emotional creatures and so it was that things sometimes got out of hand. Possibly for good reasons.

Back to topic; so you are saying that after looking at the technological and financial advances these two countries have achieved in the 60 odd years since the war, that we would not have been better off than we are today.

Now, ask your question again? 'could any Australian in their right mind agree with you, I don't think so'.

AL, this is now about YOU claiming we would have been better off with Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan winning WWII. Take that claim down to your local RSL and see who wants to buy you a beer. There is no ambiguity in your assertion, its on the forum record for all to see.
Non of the far right forum posters want to go down that road with you. You are all on your lone-sum with your scandalised claim. And don't try and muddy the waters now by wriggling about, trying to add something new like; "I'm talking about after the war" you spoke the words of a true National Socialists.

So P1405, which war are you talking about. I will not retract my comments and if the RSL won't buy me a beer, that's OK, I don't drink.
You can't try to point score on this. You know full well what I am on about.

BTW, to do a P1405 and deflect; You have not responded to the 'confirmed' claims of your disgusting treasonous lot of commo mates, the warfies, and them holding the supply ships back from leaving to restock our troops abroad.

Now, let's see you taking that claim down to ANY RSL and see who will buy YOU a beer.

AL, I was NOT in favour of "wharfies" or anyone else for that matter, holding up supplies in Australian ports that were needed by front line troops. There were strikes, that is in the historical record, what is questioned is what motivated those strikes, their effect on the overall war effort, your nonsense trying to link the Labor Party to Communism.

My own position on War. I am a pacifists, I believe all wars are avoidable and wrong, WWII included. Unless the correct action is taken in the first place, then unfortunately war is the end result. millions suffer, millions die.

I now question YOU and your assertion that we would be better off if Germany/Japan had won WWII. Just for your edification two uncles, my mothers brothers, both served in New Guinea during WWII.

Issy, maybe you can clear this one up for me, having your military knowledge. My Uncle Norm was in the Water Transport in NG, in small boats taking supplies up river, fine. But Uncle Frank was a barber, I can testify to that, by the shocking hair cuts he would give us kids, with his manual clippers, scissors, comb and Brylcreem, we hated the stuff, all short back and sides. after the war Uncle Frank worked for a long time as a Milkman, thankfully never professionally touching a pair of scissors again.
My question is could he really have been a barber in NG during the war? Mum always said he was, did they have such people. He was a jolly fella, and I vaguely recall him saying, something like "they also serve, those who stand and cut!.....keep still boy!"

Paul,

I'd say that he was a barber, obviously from what you say he wasn't a trained barber, but to my knowledge, all units, of any size, had a barber, skill came with time and practice, it wasn't a qualification for the job!!

It was very necessary to keep hair reasonably short, the "short back and sides" is based on hygiene more than military uniformity.

ALTRAV,

Food supplies to New Guinea.

Have a read of:
http://ajrp.awm.gov.au/ajrp/remember.nsf/Web-Printer/C592C2E2ABD3E30DCA256D7500001FEE?OpenDocument

https://anzacportal.dva.gov.au/history/conflicts/kokoda-track/events/jungle-warfare/problem-supply

Most non-perishable food from Australia went by ship,
Have you got anything to say about the merchant seamen who lost their lives on the run to New Guinea?

Seems that some of them were Communists.