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Should We Change The Date of Australia Day?

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Their successes finally caused the Bathurst troops to be reinforced by the 2nd Somersetshire Regiment in 1824.

Martial law was declared in august 1824 and the new commander of Bathurst base Major Morisset stated “Mutual Bloodshed may be stopped by the use of arms against the natives beyond the ordinary Rule of Law in the time of peace. Resort to summary justice has become necessary”. He then commenced search and kill operations where the mere sighting of Wiradjuri meant opening fire until all were dispatched including women and children.

One such instance was related in “Windradyne of the Wiradjuri : Martial Law at Bathurst”, I quote from “Six Australian Battlefields”. It “took place in the Capertree district north-east of Bathurst where a camp, a refugee centre, had been established principally for women and children. A party of soldiers open negotiations with the camp. The women and children and the few men present were invited to leave the camp and take food which had been placed within musket range of the nearby station buildings. As the people came forward to take the food the soldiers … opened fire. They did not cease until the entire group was dead.”

There was 2 months of open warfare before the “Battle of Bathurst” which broke the back of the resistance. It was followed by 2 months of retribution with nearly daily massacres which took an estimated 1000 lives before Windradyne was finally forced to sue for peace. He ultimately marched 260 of his warriors and women and children into Parramatta in December 1824 to met with the governor and to “surrender with honour”.

The governor formally proclaimed the end of hostilities and announced “that the war was over and that peace would now reign”. He presented Windradyne with a cap “decorated with a label bearing the word peace”.

There were many other instances of this brand of warfare being conducted you you want to maintain the lie that this was not war but a peaceful settlement.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 8:45:52 PM
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The pansies in Adelaide responsible for organising AD events have cancelled some of them because it's going to be 42 here on the day. For heaven's sake, what is wrong with these people. There is nothing unusual about very hot weather in Summer, in Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 10:19:56 PM
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It has become obvious that SteeleRedux is a malcontent with the current state of Australia and is behind the push for the removal of the White British view of Australian history and British justice. He is feeding into the Muslim education of the aboriginal disposition of their lands. He cannot accept the present and forgive the past, he promotes the past hurt which does not affect him in the slightest. He would be Republican, wanting a new Constitution, a new flag and the feeding to establishment of an Aboriginal Government under Sharia laws.

My great grandparents and friends came to Australia in 1837 and settled among aboriginals whom they accommodated on their farms in the area. A disabled child later born to the family was taken in as an adult, in her 60's, to my grandparents home when I was a boy in 1946 and cared for till her death.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 5:53:17 AM
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Dear Josephus,

Oh mate that is really petty and juvenile.

When you care deeply about something you learn its history. I have repeatedly shown how little you know and appreciate what went on through those years. Your grasp on the history of this wide brown land is so shallow and determinedly oblivious to its nuances that it makes me cringe.

Then you spout some paternalistic tripe about your grandparents accommodating aboriginals on their farms? Oh very bloody big of them. Who did they get their farms from in the first place? Well of course they must have paid the traditional owners a fair price. There was no dislocation involved. There was no impact on hunting or yam gathering or access to ceremonial sites. There was no transmission of diseases or wilful poisonings in the area.

Yeah right.

Look mate I get that you are still sulking about being labelled as ignorant but it is a demonstrable truth. Yet it doesn't take much to educate yourself about our history and I can recommend some starting books if that would help.

Many Australians who is interested in embracing not only white history but also the indigenous one. In doing so they are investing far more deeply into this country than the likes of yourself. In a sense this makes them far more Australian. I understand this threatens you and your sense of place and you have lashed out in response, but I would counsel you to take a more enlightened path, one that will allow you to better accept and be comfortable with this country's past, both good and bad.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 8:04:49 AM
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So much for those that claim majority support for moving the Date.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/01/24/07/10/poll-shows-big-support-for-keeping-australia-day-date
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 10:43:40 AM
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SteeleRedux, I note you are not happy with Australia's past or its present, that you cannot accept the past as history and move on. You prefer to brow-beat Australians who are happy to celebrate on Jan 26 with 200 year old history, instead of embracing who we are today. You are locked in a 200 year time warp, instead of accepting how Alice Springs Mayor Jacinta Price sees Australia. A change of Date will not make one iota of difference to your opinion.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 10:55:28 AM
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