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Freedom of Speech Productions - or maybe not.

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Not that I am a big facebooker but I did have an occasion to visit a page called Freedom of Speech Productions as it is one my rather bigoted brother-in-law happens to be always posting.

http://www.facebook.com/pg/FreedomOfSpeechProductions/posts/

There was a cross post of an image showing some black clad obviously orthodox Muslim women bathing at a beach. It claimed to be of an Australian beach in 2016.

http://www.facebook.com/KimVugaLoveAustraliaorLeaveParty/photos/a.144293335903593.1073741828.144235599242700/359949594337965/?type=3&theater

For some reason it tweeked the memory and with a bit of help from Mr Google I found the image was actually of a beach in Gaza in 2012. When I raised this i was told this was just a representation not meant to be specific while at the same time they got stuck into the mainstream media as fake news. I pointed out how hypocritical this was and that if the image was so representational then it should be easy to go get an image from an Australian beach. i was then promptly banned from the page and my comments removed.

I really am starting to despair that we have all that many decent rightwingers left, ones that are prepared to go toe to toe, to also respect the notion of free speech. Hypocritical is probably too kind a word for Freedom of Speech Productions when they aren't prepared to brook any dissent. What a hollow name for such a bunch of snowflakes.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 12 January 2018 10:56:04 PM
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Steele,

I looked up Freespeech Productions in the US.
All a bit disturbing to say the least.

They remind me of Scientologists. And you'd go
up against any of them at your own risk. Freespeech
Productions mentions a Kevin de Laplante and the
"Critical Thinker Academy." Which as it turns out is
anything but.

As the old adage tells us - "empty vessels make the
most noise." I would be suspicious of anyone who
gives themselves titles like "Freespeech Productions."
they usually turn out to be anything but. Just as
'Scientologists" and science? Whose "God" is a
science-fiction author.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 January 2018 3:09:01 PM
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Hi Steele,

I would have thought that labelling a photo as 'Sydney, 2016' when the publisher knows that it is 'Gaza,2012' would be stereotypically 'fake news'.

I suppose both you and I would be wondering how do 'fake news' and 'freedom of speech' can ever go together ?

Of course, such doctoring of photos can be used in all sorts of causes: was it Frank Capra who got a bloke during the Spanish Civil War to pose over and over, for that classic shot of a soldier supposedly being shot ? Obviously, such incidents must have happened many, many time during that terrible war against fascism, and it would be hard for any photographer to actually catch a real-life moment, but still ..... I suppose one problem is that, once people find out that it was staged, it does cheapen or weaken the cause that it claims to be defending, through no fault of the people themselves or of anti-fascism generally.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 14 January 2018 4:58:37 PM
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If that was an Australian beach in 2016, I would have no problem with what I see, obviously 3 young girls have fun in the surf, given the numbers it must have been a hot day. Can anyone tell me what they are doing wrong?

The comments beside give you an insight into the minds of the haters we have in Australia. Using words like "subhuman filth" "scum", the same words are posted by the bigots on this forum. Then above was the comment "Birkin bearing bastard should be shot". No need to mince words, given the chance, these haters would do exactly what the Nazi's did to the Jews, annihilate people.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 January 2018 5:02:36 AM
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Steele
These halfwits have massive support in Aussie. At the 2016 Senate election the founder of the Love Australia or Leave Party Kim Vuga scored a grand total of 172 votes in Queensland. Amazing, there are 171 other fools in Queensland.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 January 2018 9:21:20 AM
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"Credibility alone must determine whether propaganda output should be true or false."

Joseph Goebbels
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 January 2018 9:26:51 AM
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