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Freedom of Speech Productions - or maybe not.

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Hi Paul,

Do you mean the journalists: "Can anyone tell me what they are doing wrong?" If a photo was taken in Gaza, and labelled 'Sydney', that is wrong, not in a monumental way, but slightly misleading, cheapening the impact by raising doubts about its authenticity.

After all, if Trump was heard and recorded by many people to use the word 'shiphole' to refer to African countries, and denies it, that's wrong too. Yes, they may be, but if the issue is to do with refugees, then what does this moron think refugees are fleeing from ? How can anybody be so unfeeling as to deliberately link the two issues, to penalise the very people who have to flee from those 'shipholes' ? What does it mean to be a refugee, after all ? And even his tame journalists on Fox are probably aware of that.

Journalists have to adhere to the maxim, 'The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.' They can't sacrifice their integrity by bending the truth 'just a little bit'.

Just trying to keep a balance :)

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 15 January 2018 9:34:16 AM
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Hi Joe, I was asking what were the girls in the photo doing wrong. Seems they were having an enjoyable time at the beach, if it was in Aussie, which it wasn't, I have no problem with their attire. If Ronald McDonald was photographed frolicking in the surf in his clobber I wouldn't have a problem. I dob't even have a problem with those that frolic at the beach in the all together.
I have a problem with what that site is trying to do. Stir up hatred against others.

Joe, do you recall some years back when a certain rather hefty TV sports commentator (front row forward) made a "citizens arrest" of a nude bather at Reef Beech in Sydney. He dragged the poor naked sob from the beach and locked him in the boot of his car. Then he drove to the local cop shop to have the hapless criminal charged. Unfortunately for him the coppers took a dim view of his arrest methods, and instead charged the "citizen policeman" with a number of offences including assault. Earned him the nick name of 'Sex Messup'.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 15 January 2018 9:58:25 AM
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Hi Paul,

Frolicking in the surf in Gaza may have different connotations from frolicking in the surf in Sydney, which might give the whole image a different spin. After all, it's no big deal for girls to frolic at Sydney beaches, but frolicking on a Gaza beach may help to illuminate what rights women and girls there have, and put their rights in a different light from what we are used to thinking about Hamas. Not that I would support Hamas, but there you go.

Can the truth be 'bent' in what somebody thinks is a good cause ? I don't think so.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 15 January 2018 10:21:51 AM
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Steelie there are ultra Right Wing Groups & Ultra Left Wing Groups. they are opposite sides of the same coin. There seems to be a big Hoo Haa about the Ultra Right Wing Groups but nothing is ever said about the Ultra Left Wing Groups. Why is that? The way I see it is the URWG's vocalize a lot but the ULWG's commit most of the Violence. The Media always reports that the URWG groups were Violent because they resisted the Violence of the ULWG's.

The people in these violent fringe Groups are in the minority. It is those that give their respective Groups a bad name. Most people on either side just want their opinions heard & debated in a reasonable manner.

Good to see you got back safely.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 15 January 2018 9:27:56 PM
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The French have a lot to answer for, with that left and right nonsense. For me there are the extreme and the moderates. Extreme fascist, and extreme communists, are not all that philosophically different, one could join the others camp without much difficulty (East Germany after WWII). The antagonism between the two comes about because they are both competing for the same position of autocratic control, by a supreme leader within the society. At the end of the day the constraints put in place by both are much the same. Under both an elite group will prosper, while the mass will suffer.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 5:16:33 AM
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Paul,

You have true wisdom beyond your years :) 100 %. !

Cheers and best wishes,

Kia Ora,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 10:18:59 AM
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