Recent news articles have given the African Gang problem in Melbourne national attention.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/stop-political-correctness-african-community-leader-urges-action-on-youth-crime

Mr Turnbull said he was "very concerned at the growing gang violence and lawlessness in Victoria, in particular in Melbourne".
"This is a failure of the Andrews Labor government," he told reporters in Sydney on Monday.

Victoria's acting Roads and Road Safety Minister Philip Dalidakis hit back at the prime minister and said the state government would not be taking advice "from a bloke who can't even put on a life vest when he's on a boat in Sydney Harbour".

Who gets the blame for this mess?
Is it the Victorian Labor Government?
Or the people responsible for letting them come here?

And how should this issue be dealt with?
- Velvet Glove or Iron Fist?

Dear AC,

This is a bit of a tricky one.

It depends on who you believe.

One side claims that the State Government has watched
this unfold over the past two years. That more must be
done to address violence in African communities. That
action must be taken instead of just talking about it.

Then on the other hand the Victorian Police Deputy
Commissioner Andrew Crisp tells us that Melbourne did not
have a gang problem and urged the media not to label
groups of young thugs as "gangs". He re-assured that the
police are well and truly on top of youth crime.

The Victorian Crime Statistics Agency's data for the year
to June 2017 shows Sudanese born offenders were allegedly
involved in 98 aggravated burglaries in the state compared
to 540 Australian-born offenders. For the same period,
45 serious assaults were allegedly committed by Sudanese
born offenders compared to 1,462 Australian-born offenders.

We're told that people born in Sudan make up about 0.1 per
cent of Victoria's population. Census data shows.

Personally, I would recommend that more be done to
address the violence - stronger laws must be implemented,
no matter who the perpetrators are. The safety of our
communities must be maintained. The Premier can no longer
let this situation slide.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-01/african-gang-crime-out-of-control-in-melbourne-minister-says/9296476

Foxy,
Both state and federal governments are to blame.

The states firstly for not having tough enough laws to discourage this type of crime. Victoria is not the only state as there was an article that Brisbane was going the same way recently.

Secondly the feds must share the blame as they let them or their parents in without considering the cultural differences. The same is also happening with allowing muslims to become residents. The offending parties may be either muslim or christen but the cultural differences are vast and there is little hope of integration. It shows a complete lack of thought for the well being of our communities by politicians.

The first thing to do is to stop further immigration of those groups of people that show they have contempt for our laws and social standards. Next is to strengthen the laws and to instruct the judiciary to enforce the laws. Not just issue pathetically weak sentences

The PM has a cheek blaming a state government when it has been his and other federal governments who have been stupidly bringing these people into our country. Deportation is the only answer, along with a total ban on these savage people in future.

The African gangs are an almost daily reminder of the failure of multiculturalism, and the fact that all cultures are certainly not equal.

Really the tax funded abc is probably as guilty as anyone. Their silence on facts and willingness to embrace fake news is sickening. While people are being chopped up with machetes they bang on about racism ignoring the real racist and bigots.

The Australian reports one African from Victoria has been deported to NZ (the ease of movement between NZ and here needs to stop). And six other Africans are facing deportation.

According to the ABC, "African migrants face unfair stigma as gang stoushes escalate".

If the African gangs are escalating their violent, criminal activities, that is where the stigma is coming from, and there is nothing unfair about it. They have earned it. As usual, "community advocates" are making excuses for their thugs, and the toxic ABC is aiding them.

A real pity that overpaid abc journalist and pollies dont have to live in areas where Sudanese and/or Indigenous youth are totally lawless. They really are a disgrace. They are dumb and dishonest enough to label Hanson voters as racist. She along with Cory are among a few honest ones.

Hi Everyone,

There's a video in this article with youth leader Nelly Yoa I thought was interesting.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-police-admit/9297984

He mentioned kids being bored, unemployed, not at school, punishments not harsh enough / too lenient and that they've witnessed horrific things in war torn Sudan.

Then I saw this article.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbournes-west-not-so-wild-say-african-emigres-20180102-h0cgm0.html

What's interesting is that just two women, in that article together have 18 kids.

So two women create 18 kids, and most of them are bored unemployed / not at school (committing crime) with the bigger question being
how much are taxpayers paying to maintain these people at the expense their own communities? How long does it take for these people to become WORTHWHILE members of our country of do they ever? Or does the unemployment and welfare just become endemic together with the cost of prison sentences?

What is the real cost of this?
We're destroying our own country and putting our own citizens at risk just having them here.
These people care not about of communities; and we live under a policy of political correctness that labels us racist bigots if we dare speak out
There is no way our country can get ahead with a burden on taxpayers like this. What would be the expense of them in a generations time, and what will our suburbs look like then?

Will they even be our suburbs anymore?
Likely they will elect one of their own into local government when their surburbs become more demographically African though disproportionate birth rates, and then the suburbs will be theirs.

Here is an article from The Age that offers
suggestions how we can tackle the Sudanese
gang issue.

It's worth a read.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/we-have-an-issue-with-sudanese-gangs-here-s-how-we-can-tackle-it-20171230-p4yy4p.html

PM Turdball, captain of the HMAS Countersink knows the ship is headed full steam ahead onto the reefs of popular opinion, hence no life jacket needs to be worn as he will go down with the ship. The escort ship HMAS Teredo ( totally eaten out by shipworms & whiteants) captained by Vice Admiral Short Pants will probably throw him a lifeline prior to the election being called...let’s take a guess - a concession on the republic perhaps in exchange for a seat or two in (yet another) lacklustre minor government. The successive 2 party abuses of Australia’s sovereignty to appease the vested interests will continue unabated, & a new wave of oxygen thieves designed to undermine whatever vestiges of decent society remaining will materialise as ‘ Refugee policy’.
Breakers off the starboard bow skipper...crunch! We didn’t see that one coming ?

It is time to stop referring to "communities" and "community leaders" in Australia when discussing ethnic groups. All individuals in Australia are responsible for their own behaviour, not a bunch of people calling themselves "communities". There should be one Australian community, 'led' by elected politicians. But, of course, multiculturalism has made this impossible, separating people into tribes as it does.

We are not the only country suffering the Somali effect.
Britain now has a Somali problem overlaying the Muslim problem.

Crime rate in London has gone up about 50% since Mayor Khan took over.
London now a more dangerous city than New York.

As usual the deflection committee is hard at work.

You want to know who to blame for all these problems? YOURSELVES!

Don't include me in your bent and twisted politically correct world of lie's and corruption. When I press the point all I get is, 'that's what we pay them for'.

If you do or don't agree with anything these guys do, don't just whinge to us on the forums, like that's going to change anything. Annoy the crap out of the pollies.

They wanted the job, so they are the ones who can fix things if enough people break their precious stones. Before you go down that path you must destroy PC once and for all. It must be destroyed before it destroys us.

Why you stupid people can't see what is plainly in front of you, is beyond me.

Politically Correct? Ring any bells? The phrase was spawned to mask the lie's the pollies told. If they wanted to tell the truth they just use the word correct.

No, if you want to play the blame game, blame yourselves.

ALTRAV,

A bit vicious, but basically true. We get the politicians we deserve, but we keep on reappointing the same idiots. This is mainly due to the existence of political parties and the fact that these parties decide who they put up. We get no say, but we still vote for people we believe to be idiots because we are stuck with the party system. Possibly good people don't have the money to run. As long as the party system exists, there will be no change. Politics is about parties and a few people interested in personal gain and power. Nothing to do with right of wrong or the country. Our feeble one vote every three years is pure symbolism.

Reality 101.....Change starts with the people....not the party
If the people are not willing to look at the issues, the result will be accordingly.
There is no justification
This society focuses on entitlements without responsibility, and they've been encouraged to do so for the last three decades

Foxey,
Looks as though your link to the story in the Age has fallen in a heap with an article in the Tele showing that this bloke, Nelly Yoa, that the Age featured is a fraud who has made up all lies about himself. I bet that the Age journalist Joe Hinchliffe, and the Editor, have egg all over their faces.

I almost replied saying that none of Yoa's suggestions had any practical worth in fixing the problem. Glad I didn't waste my time.

Do you still think it is 'worth a read'.

Whether it's street violence or domestic violence the politician class all over Australia are failing to legislate to compel the judiciary to confront violence, and failing to rule for the 24 million Australians who are at risk from violent criminals while the politicians and the judiciary protect the violent criminals who prey on us.

Although drug pushers and financial swindlers need to be combated (as they are) there needs to be a serious and sustained targeting, by our rulers, of the actual perpetrators of vandalism and violence, on behalf of the 24 million victims and potential victims - or the issue will have to be pressed at the ballot box.

The likes of Potato Head Dutton use public hatred of violent criminals as a propaganda weapon in mere Tweedledum Tweedledee competition for the temporary fruits of office. But they do diddly-squat to legislate to confront the violent criminals.

A citizen can choose not to be a victim of drug pushers and not to blunder into a bad financial decision, but victimhood is compulsory at the hands of street thugs and wife-bashers.

There is too much talk and not enough punishment.