Special Delivery,
The Arab world is a mess and will remain so as long
as they continue their cousin marriage custom.
The rest of the world has had to step in to try and sort them out.
They are simply unable to help themselves.

However I think it has been a mistake to try and help them.
Nature should be allowed to run its course, they will either accept
that what they have been taught with Islam is nonsense, and repair
their genome or as time goes by their birth defects will get worse
and finally they will disappear from history as a failed race.

Special Delivery,

Iraq. That's what you're talking about ?

So how many Iraqis have been involved in terrorist attacks, here or in the US or in Europe ? yes, Somalis, Afghans, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, north Africans, Turks (hmmm ..... how many bombs has the US dropped on Turkey ?) - not too many Iraqis. Neil Prakash is Cambodian-Fijian-Muslim: how many bombs have we dropped on Fiji or Cambodia lately ?

With the greatest respect known to humankind, your proposition doesn't stand up, SD.
Try another angle.

Joe

“which item would you like the factual or rational support extended to?
Posted by Special Delivery, Friday, 5 January 2018 12:27:48 PM
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Try these:

"Truth is you didn't think and or didn't care, all you wanted to do was justify your myopic and feeble mind whose knowledge is based on jingoism and bias.
"Now, like a pathetic individual, you want to hide behind the actions of other countries who contributed to the same cause for displacement as though that exonerates you and your kind....what a mealy mouthed lot you are.
"Anger is a universal state of mind and travels very easily but then you would need some intellectual capacity to realise that so that reality excuses those suffering from mental deficiency such as yourselves.
"An honourable man would have acknowledged the wrong, but [the] we know what you're not!
"Education is what you don't have.....suck it up"

"So how many Iraqis have been involved in terrorist attacks, here or in the US or in Europe"
name them!....and is this before or after Iraq invaded and while we're at it why was Iraq invaded?
Emperor Julian wants verifiable facts
"Anger is a universal state of mind and travels very easily' fact!
"An honourable man would have acknowledged the wrong, but [the] we know what you're not!"....speaks for itself.
"Now, like a pathetic individual, you want to hide behind the actions of other countries who contributed to the same cause for displacement as though that exonerates you and your kind."...speaks for itself

As my father always said, 'Argue with a fool and you will always lose'...guess that means you win!

A debate is based on fact!
I personally don't have time for any religion but I recognise it's necessity to social order and I'm not about to vilify anyone because of their beliefs.
These societies would have transitioned in their own good time
You bombed them...deal with the consequences and stop bleating about how right you are....because you're not.
Each country/society deals with the consequences of actions embraced, willingly or otherwise.
Next I'll hear that Martin Bryant was a closet Muslim
Can't wait to hear the BS excuses

Obviously we did not bomb them well enough.

If we had there would be none of them left to come here causing grief.

Hope we have learnt our lesson, & use more effective bombs next time.

SD,

So let's see, what countries have been bombed the crap out of, by the US, NATO or our own air force ? Initially and for a short time, Iraq (and yes, I marched against the US involvement in overthrowing Saddam: March 17, 2003, if I recall rightly). Isis-controlled Iraq and Syria. Afghanistan against the Sunni Taliban. At odd times, Somalia, Libya.

So from which of those countries have Islamist terrorists come to Australia ? Somalia: Yes, but I don't recall the Australian Air Force bombing the crap out of Somalia. Libya ? No. Iraq ? No. Syria ? I don't think so. Afghanistan ? Yes, quite a few - perhaps they were committing acts of terrorism on behalf of the Taliban ? Is that what you mean ?

Perhaps you don't believe that any Saudis were involved in the destruction of the World Trade Centre, and three thousand people. I can't recall when last the US bombed the crap out of Saudi Arabia - perhaps you can help us here.

So what is the correlation between being bombed the crap out of by US, NATO or Australian air focus, and provoking terrorists ? Not very high. Perhaps you need a new rationale for supporting anti-US Islamists, SD. There's your clue :)

Joe