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Milo Yiannopoulos is a joke!

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Foxy,

Finally you are getting the point and agreeing with Liberal Senator Jane Hume. If you don't like the message, don't listen.

What we have is left whinge and unionist thugs trying to ensure that no one can listen to the message.

As long as Milo isn't inciting violence or illegal activity, he should be allowed to speak if not then free speech has been sacrificed and censorship reigns.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:30:21 AM
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Not mere 'attention seekers', imported culture of 'Progressive' Left violence,

"The Rise of the Violent Left"
Antifa’s activists

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:37:27 AM
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<<I think it's incorrect to say Milo is all style and no substance, I think he's got plenty of both.>>

Sorry, this is not correct. For example, I purchase a lot of designer label clothing (like Milo does) during mid year sales. One time I got a $99.00 shirt at David Jones for $19.95. Many of these clothes are made in poor countries, where people are simply exploited.

This is style. I get to wear designer label clothing and substance as department stores make less profit. I am actually taking action, and making a difference. Milo does not do that.

<<As long as Milo isn't inciting violence or illegal activity, he should be allowed to speak if not then free speech has been sacrificed and censorship reigns.>>

The facts are he is inciting violence. Violent protesters come into that fact, because their activities are simply violent.

That does not mean I agree or disagree with this activity.

Violent protests in my view based around Milo Yiannopoulos achieve little. Personally I'd rather see these people engage in well thought through debate or volunteering, (like I do) which has much better outcomes.

It must be noted, that via many youtubes I have seen Milo Yiannopoulos with religious individuals, aim to show his clear goal to make these people angry or upset and in one case I saw people leaving one of his speeches and others applauded that.

<<The rules that have applied for so long are now being ignored by the likes of Milo, Trump, Drudge, Shapiro, the Breitbart journalists and others. Pauline was an early, though less articulate, example of this.>>

I agree. Simply putting out a message in more stylish tone, but your speech is still the same as many other extreme views makes no difference, applying to what some consider left or right wing politics.

<<But don't seek out Milo to see new insights on conservative/libertarian thought. For that we have Shapiro.>>

I agree with that. In fact have seen Ben Shariro on youtube, and he has dissociated himself from the many views of Milo Yiannopoulos.
Posted by NathanJ, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:18:14 PM
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AJ Philips, you destroy your argument by confirming it's "how society expects them to dress and behave" that "distresses" them.

So changing your body is not the answer. Changing societal expectations is.

Dumb analogies?

"Age isn’t a spectrum in which children may be born genuinely thinking and feeling like adults."

Actually age is a spectrum, genius.

Children aren't born "gendered".
For the first few years they are *neuter*, displaying little sex/gender differentiation.

There is a clear biological demarcation though between male/female child/adult: puberty
But this is also a spectrum, unfolding over several years.
But nobody who had a penis before puberty has ever had a vagina afterward, by "nature".

Second dumb analogy:

Sexual preference is not fixed, it is fluid, as Freud, Kinsey, etc confirm.
Homosexuality is rampant in single-sex environments (prison, military, boys/girls schools), but those same individuals will be hetero outside those environments.
Conversely, a "gay" man would become hetero if shipwrecked on an island with only women for company.

As for "nature", the sexual organs are "naturally" reproductive, but they are not exclusively used in that way.
Even other animals besides humans vary in sexual expression.
One's genitalia cannot vary the same way one's use of them can.
You either have these bits or those bits.
What you do with them is another matter altogether.

A tiny number of people have both or indeterminate genitalia. Again, that should be *accepted*, not modified to fit "society".

People can have infinite subjective perceptions of their bits, bodies and what they do with them.
Transgender orthodoxy attempts to put infinity into finite duality.
It should be something "progressive" people reject, not champion.

"The rowdy, far-Left, on the other hand, aren’t behaving any differently to how they would if any other alt-right poster boy had come to town."

And why do they do that?
They mock and criticise people protesting outside abortion clinics, arguing it violates free choice, yet practice the same tactics (and worse).

They argue "If you don't want abortions, don't have one!", but fail to comprehend "If you don't like alt-right speakers, don't attend their speeches".
Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:28:24 PM
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Nathan J, "The facts are he [Milo Yiannopoulos] is inciting violence"

OK, so where is your evidence? Otherwise it is just ad hominem.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 1:02:12 PM
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Hi NathanJ,

I'm finding that your responses are just becoming idiotic.
So you're saying that you buy designer clothes that are made in countries where people are "simply exploited".
But because you 'shop the specials', and do the 'end of season sales', you are 'taking action' and displaying 'style and substance' that (you allege) Milo does not; and that you therefore have some higher moral authority?
And that this is the gauge with which you base you judgement and opinion of him on?

Sorry but that's just completely ridiculous.
- I wasn't referring to his dress sense; nor anything to do with the ethics of where, what or how much he pays for his clothes.

Definition of 'Style'

n. The way in which something is said, done, expressed, or performed: a style of speech and writing.
n. The combination of distinctive features of literary or artistic expression, execution, or performance characterizing a particular person, group, school, or era.
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=define+style&t=ffnt&atb=v81-6_b&ia=definition
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 1:10:57 PM
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