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The Forum > General Discussion > Dastardly remains in the Parliament, why?

Dastardly remains in the Parliament, why?

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Dear Shadow Minister,

Senator Dastyari has many questions to answer about
the relationship with the Chinese donor. There is
no question about that. However there are also
questions that need to be asked about China's
operations in Australia and about the links of our
politicians to Chinese political donors.

The following links give us more:

http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2017/chinas-operation-australia/hard-power.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/foreign-minister-julie-bishops-links-to-chinese-political-donors-20160823-ggzauy.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/political-networking-the-chinese-way-a-sydney-mp-and-his-community-adviser-20170621-gww0k6.html
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 December 2017 10:25:46 AM
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Paul,

You forget the long conga line of Labor Councillors and MPs before the courts for corrupt behaviour involving developers for which the law was originally written? The labor governments still get all the developer money simply laundered by the unions and activist NGOs such as Getup, with the Greens'snouts deeply in the trough.

The point with Sam Dastardly is that he has not only been caught with his hands in the till, but doing his Chinese masters' will contrary to the interests of Australia
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 11 December 2017 10:27:39 AM
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cont'd ...

Dear Shadow Minister,

Amy apologies for the typo in one of my previous links -
here it is again:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/foreign-minister-julie-bishops-links-to-chinese-political-donors-20160823-gqzauy.html

Many politicians on both sides of politics have a great deal to
answer.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 December 2017 10:37:21 AM
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Foxy,

The point of donations and voting should be to support the political party that most closely represents your political views and interests. This becomes corruption when the "donations" either are directed to the personal account of the politician involved or are contingent on the recipient party or individual modifying his/its activities or policies to be compliant with the demands of the "donor".

Essentially, the determination of corruption is the direction of the arrow of causality. Do the donations follow the policies, or do the policies follow the donations. That liberal principles give birth to policies focusing on free trade and investment are far more china friendly than Labor's protectionist policies is significant motivation for Chinese donations in a manner that is not corrupt. However, Dastardly's anti Australian/ pro china actions following personal cash donations is as close to direct corruption that can be found.

In short, to make accusations of corruption, you need to show that the corrupt person or party modified their behaviour because of donations, without this the fevered bleating that donations were given is pointless.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 11 December 2017 11:01:48 AM
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Shadow Minister,

The three links given give enough reasons for
questions to be asked of many of our politicians and
their connections with Chinese donors. The
connections as we can see are deeper than just picking
on only select members of opposing parties. Quite a few
politicians have questions that need answering as ASIO
can testify.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 December 2017 1:10:27 PM
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Foxy,

These links are tenuous at best. The questions that need to be answered are whether you have anything more than innuendo?

Have these liberals done anything to justify scrutiny other than standing next to a Chinese man?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 4:26:44 AM
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