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The Forum > General Discussion > Dastardly remains in the Parliament, why?

Dastardly remains in the Parliament, why?

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Telling a porky Shadow, "the proceeds of crimes from the CFMEU" What proceeds, from what crime? Evidence please, I think you are making it up.

"I think that a greens pedophile trumps anything on the libs" This so called Green, how many children did he actually molest. should have used the Jones defence as used by Jones in England who got off on the defence of police entrapment. Did this bloke use the same defence?
The fact is when charged the bloke in question, was not a financial member of the Greens. unlike my list of all party members.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 5 January 2018 8:57:51 AM
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Paul,

Your ignorance knows no bounds. Try reading the news.

"CFMEU rocked by claims of corrupt dealing with crime figures in exchange for construction contracts"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-28/union-accused-of-ties-to-crime-figures,-kickbacks-for-jobs/5221234

"Latest penalty takes CFMEU fines past $10m mark"

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/crime-and-justice/cfmeu-and-cepu-fined-more-than-400000-for-unlawful-action/news-story/6fdf822907bb87d006659a5bce7ab01a

"An investigation by Fairfax Media and the ABC’s 7.30 program has identified several influential Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union officials, organisers and shop stewards in NSW and Victoria who have been given bribes and other inducements by the companies. The union figures in return use their influence to ensure the companies get the CFMEU’s backing, including specific enterprise bargaining agreements, to win contracts on parts of big private and government projects, among them Victoria’s desalination plant and Sydney’s Barangaroo development."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/bribery-dirty-deals-rife-in-building-industry-20140127-31j0a.html

"The Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union has fallen under the control of “criminal elements” who are using black bans to send a message to the sector that they are in charge and the law doesn’t apply to them"

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/boral-cfmeu-criminals-using-black-bans-to-show-they-are-above-law/news-story/4b1ebf2b7098d4308aa63d77bd26892c

Also the newspapers claimed that Karel Solomon was a member of the greens at the time of his pedophilic activity. So unless you can show otherwise I will take their word over your ignorance.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 5 January 2018 9:46:09 AM
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Shadow, its not unknown for criminals to deposit money into banks. So if you borrow money from that bank, then it goes without question, you are borrowing money from criminals. I don't think so!

Shadow, once again you have shot yourself in the foot!

"Key Liberal fundraising body took Mafia money for access"

"Mafia figures donated tens of thousands of dollars to the discredited NSW Liberal Party fundraising vehicle, the Millennium Forum, as part of an ultimately successful campaign to allow a known criminal to stay in Australia."

Not only was The Liberal Party taking cash from the proceeds of crime. They were also actively helping their Mafia mates stay in Australia;

"NSW Liberal Party, also helped criminal Frank Madafferi's lawyer meet then immigration minister Philip Ruddock on the visa issue."

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Score Paul1405 101 Shadow zilch!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 6 January 2018 7:20:32 PM
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Paul,

I wholeheartedly concur with your comparison between the CFMEU and the Mafia especially given the connections between the CFMEU and organised crime and I look forward to your explanation for the greens continuing to take $ms from them in order for parliamentary protection.

Bit of an own goal there Paul, takes your score negative.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 7 January 2018 4:44:53 PM
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No, no, Shadow, no comparison at all is being made. The CFMEU is a legitimate worker organisation, which has a stream of perfectly legal funds from bonafide members. A small donation, I believe $50k, (small change to your Mafia types) was made to The Greens, to help in the fight for the rights of the oppressed and downtrodden, including underpaid CFMEU members (lollypop persons included).

On the other hand we have your hero's, the totally illegal Al Capone types, pouring millions of dollars, which were obtained from every illegal activity, from the numbers racket, to bootlegging into The Liberal Party slush fund. Not only that, the Mafia crime bosses were given unprecedented access to Liberal luminaries through their legal represenative. Something you fail to deny!

Shadow, have you joined the campaign 'Brian Parker for President' yet? Just in case, so you wont miss out, I'll give you your membership in advance. In numerical order, You are member number 24,972,863.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 8 January 2018 4:37:18 AM
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Paul,

You can't stop lying can you.

Just for a start given that this does not cover 2016 or 2017 or the donations to Getup which is a greens labor mouthpiece:

"the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union handed $125,000 to the Greens in 2015"

"The CFMEU ACT Branch gave the ACT Greens a single donation of $50,000 for federal election campaigning.

"Total union donations to the Greens reached almost $600,000 in 2013-14"

And considering the $10m in fines and mobster links that the CFMEU has, while the CFMEU has a legal status (much like most of the Mafia businesses) most of its income is not from dues but from money extorted from business.

You second thumping great lie is "On the other hand we have your hero's, the totally illegal Al Capone types, pouring millions of dollars, which were obtained from every illegal activity, from the numbers racket, to bootlegging into The Liberal Party slush fund."

You are an outrageous liar, and I challenge you to substantiate these $ms.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 8 January 2018 9:05:36 AM
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