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Foxy, I won't get involved with the theological too's and fro's, as I have never been interested in what are cults and conquerors. Neither of which have been of any help to humanity, in fact quite the opposite. What I am coming out of the shadows for is to pick you up on a point of order. Your reference to 'an environmental disaster'. Foxy, let me put your mind at ease. We are not heading for a disaster. If you will look at the evidence, (not the one's the greens try to push, but the ones they buried) you will find as recently as a week or two ago a scientist/researcher was on TV to bring us the breaking news of the new finding he and his team had discovered, that CO2 levels were more than 30% higher than previously recorded. What the greens have succeeded in was the suppression of this information as that was not the surprise. It was revealed years ago and confirmed again today that the BIGGEST emitter of CO2 by far are the tropical forests and in fact all forms of Flora, especially in large growth areas. Now go and smack a greeny in the face. This information has been suppressed and sidelined for decades, well not any more. So, (I love this bit) if you want to reduce CO2 levels, get rid of the trees. ROFLOL. I love it when a plan comes together. It was originally found by a satellite that was put into space to study the CO2 levels in cities. Well to everyones shock and surprise, the cities were nothing compared to jungles and large areas of plants and trees. Now before you come back look it up and then you can correct me. I know what I saw and heard. GO!
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 5:18:41 PM
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Dear Foxy,
Really ? Are we really 'killing each other in the name of different prophets etc.?" I don't think the West is opposing Islamist fascism in the name of any particular god or goddess, but in the name of the rest of humanity. And good on them. Not sure what the Crusades have to do with anything: let's not forget that all of those cities in the 'Holy Land' were Christian for hundreds of years before the Muslim aggressions. And by the way, that the first versions of the Koran were probably written in Syriac and/or Aramaic (and without diacritica), not in Arabic, which didn't really develop as a written language till comparatively late. Interestingly, the first Muslim coins struck, in bout 680-700 AD, had a portrait of Muhammad on them. With a cross above his head. Love, Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 5:29:39 PM
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Dear ALTRAV,
Tropical forests are a stabilizing force in the global climate, for they absorb vast amounts of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Many plants are medically valuable: most anticancer compounds, for example, come from plants of the rain forest, and this pharmaceutical cornucopia is still mostly untapped. The rain forest itself is a vast and irreplaceable "library" from which genetic engineers of the future may draw their raw material. Many species among the millions of uncataloged plants will surely prove to be edible, and could become major crops in the future. We need to seriously think about the pressure of our human population and our technologies that are devastating our natural ecosystems. This pressure takes many forms - urbanization and highway consturction; transformation of virgin land into farmland; chemical pollution of fresh water' dredging and landfill in coastal areas, uncontrolled hunting and poaching especially of African wildlife, deliberate and accidental poisoning of wildlife with pesticides; disruption of natural predator-prey relationships; strangulation of millions of birds and fish with discarded styrofoam pellets, plastic bags, and other synthetic flotsam, dam construction and irrigation, and massive deforestation. Anyway, you get the picture. There is a very good argument for protecting life forms - and it has nothing to do with any benefits to ourselves. The breath-taking diversity of species has evolved in delicate and precarious balance over many millions of years. Most of the plants and animals with which we share the earth have been here a great deal longer than we have. For a fleeting moment in planetary history, our technology has given us domain over them. In awe, respect, and humility, we might just let them be. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 5:55:16 PM
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Dear Joe (Loudmouth),
I won't argue with your logic. You are always right. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 5:57:18 PM
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Here's something interesting:
If you read this article, you'd think a large part of the country supported this view. http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/12/04/22/34/bring-them-home-manus-island-refugees But go here and you find NO-ONE wants them http://www.facebook.com/9News/posts/1726483400732823 Just another way the media distorts public opinions. Now ask yourself the question, why were comments disallowed on the original article. - Obviously, they don't anyone's opinions shown with the article. They won't write an article saying the public thinks her comments are offensive. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:39:17 PM
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Foxy, as always you present very well informed answers. But, I'm not sure if I was clear in my previous comment. What I stated was a clear indictment on the green and global warming movement. I am asking because your comments are in direct conflict with what I wrote. To clarify. A scientist and his team of researchers found that the biggest emitters of CO2, by more than 30% more than previously thought, is in fact the tropical forests and all major forests and large areas of plant life. Some years ago a satellite was sent up to read CO2 levels in cities and built up areas. To everyones surprise it came as a shock that the cities gave off next to nothing, but the forests and large areas of plants were the huge emitters of CO2. It was later reported that the bloody greens buried these findings beneath natural disasters and global warming stories. This information was suppressed and never released. (Thanks to the bloody greens). I wanted to know if any other commentors could add to this story. It was on TV, about a week or so ago.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 10:30:15 PM
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