AC,

You are not a bore. Foxy herself could bore for Australia. She is a know-all, too silly to know she is making a fool of herself. You name it, Foxy is an expert. Along with Is Mise, I say ban Islam - and Foxy. Ignoring the old battleaxe is the best way.

ttbn, along with homophobia, you have added Islamophobia! Judging by your list of hates posted on the forum, you must be suffering from a dozen different phobias by now.
As a social progressive show me where I have been complementary of Islam, I find it as wacky as as all other religions. You have a certain warmth yourself towards Christianity. A treat of the rabid right. always liking to suck up to the conservatism found in the leadership of main stream Christianity.

Paul,

I have always loathed Islam; it's not a new 'addition'. And, it is true: I do not like homosexuality, but I don't fear or hate individuals who practise such awful behaviour. I come into contact with one once or twice a year, and I'm always civil to him. He and his partner, whom I don't know, are also opposed to SSM and they voted NO.

Watch your grammar, old son - you are the 'social progressive, not I. I think that you also meant to write 'complimentary, not ' complementary'. You need to be careful before trying to take the piss out of me:).

But, as a 'social progressive' - such a contradictory description for people wanting to take us backwards to the same old historic errors- you have to accept (on behalf of the designers of your creed if not personally) that the Left, as I prefer to call you, are in league with, or at least treating lightly, Islam, which pursues the same totalitarian methods as you do. It's a pity about the homosexuality, though, and I'm interested to know how you are going to deal with that problem when the Muslims are strong enough to do more than just vote NO.

BTW I think of myself as Christian, and I am a nominal Presbyterian. But I do not attend church because I have no time whatsoever for what now passes for Christianity - a mob of jokers trying to be relevant to a society that hates them.

Nice chatting with you, even though you are a Christianophobe.

Hey Foxy,
"You need to do a bit of research regarding the way our country has worked with migrants"
There's your problem right there.
You've got your thinking cap on back to front.

Because unless you think you can reform Islam or the behavior of migrants then I think 'YOU need to do a bit of research regarding the way migrants work with other countries'.

If I were to try to look at it realistically, you're in fantasyland being hopeful and optimistic in the face of all evidence to the contrary, whereas I'm just looking at things realistically GIVEN the evidence.

We could argue further, but would there be any point?
Let me just say this:
- You can criticise and judge me all you want and that's fine, but at the end of the day if ANY of the types of things happening in Europe start becoming more prevalent in this country, it was because PEOPLE LIKE YOU were too complacent, and because PEOPLE LIKE ME DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH FOR OUR COUNTRY.

And I'm happy to be judged on this basis.

If it's a crime to care for and defend ones family, community and country, especially the innocent women and kids, then judge me all you want; I don't give a crap. You win. I'm guilty.

I think you believe in this idea of 'inclusiveness'.
'One nation all sharing similar values'.
Again you've got it all back to front.

It's not about OUR ideals of inclusiveness, it's about THEIRS.
They are the ones demanding their own laws.
Does that sound inclusive to you?

//My solution, ban Islam.//

Section 116 of the Constitution forbids the Commonwealth making any law for 'prohibiting the free exercise of any religion'.

Banning Islam would require a referendum, and I can't see it passing. There'd be too much concern that such a change of Constitution would be abused by the Parliament, i.e. used to ban the wrong religion. Comparisons would be made with the Soviet persecution of religion which saw the deaths of some 12-20 million Christians. If you thought the ACL were noisy during the postal survey... brother, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Hi Foxy, there was a massive rally of men, women and children yesterday. Held at 7am in High Cross Park Randwick near the hospital. It was to show solidarity with the victims of Domestic Violence. A peaceful walk to Coogee Beach then followed. "T" said she was heartened by the number of men who took part. Lots of staff, nurses and doctors from the POW Hospital joined in so there were hundreds there, very successful. The fight will continue until Domestic Violence is eliminated from our society.