Opinion2, here we go again, it looks like this stupid stupid man is going to get these laws passed, then talk about it, i.e. debate the protection of the likes of religious freedoms, education etc.

I just can not believe how governments are so set on implementing plans then discussing the details at a later date. Insulation, mining tax, carbon tax, Traverston dam, the list goes on. Meanwhile, we the tax payer just keep sitting there helplessly watch our taxes being pissed away on brain fart after brain fart and it doesn't matter which party or leader we have.

What on earth are our chidrens grand children likely to inherit.

//I simply opined that the churches would be harassed into silence//

Hah! We should be so bloody lucky. Their raison d'etre is sticking their nose into everybody's business. Good luck getting that mob to put a sock in it.

//Religion won't be destroyed but it will withdraw into itself and cease to be an obstacle to the next 'progressive' agenda item.//

I really should start taking wagers...

I think the chances of the churches not having a whinge about things they don't like are slim to say the least.

//But a decade of #hashtag trendiness utterly changed societal views.//

So it's all twitter's fault? But I don't even use twitter.

My views were mostly informed by Mill, and he's hardly a recent philosopher...

Maybe those societal views in favour of increased liberty are older than you think.

I have a question for everyone. If the institution of, or the word marriage and all that it means today, is so important to the queers, how can they get 'married' if they cannot 'consummate' their union?

Hi MHaze,

You concerns about the future are understandable.
However I am sure that Australians will tackle each
issue that arises with fairness and equity. They have
shown that they are capable of doing precisely that.
Personally I am optimistic that the "fair go" in
Australia will survive. But to achieve that our
country will require genuine leadership and a willingness
to confront both the difficulties and opportunities that
the country will face. My feeling is that we are
uniquely placed in Australia to be able to do precisely
that.

Hi ALTRAV,

I think that you are confusing the word "consumate"
with "procreate". Same sex couples are quite
capable of having sexual intercourse - therefore
they can "consumate" their union. Your concern
about being able to "procreate" is unwarranted
and actually irrelevant because with the advances
in the availability and technology of artificial
insemination; if they so choose, lesbian women are
able to become mothers without having had any
heterosexual relationships at all. Adoption or
surrogacy is also an available option. Besides
there are many heterosexual couples who are married
who are unable to have children or who choose not to
have children or who are too old to have children.
And that does not make their unions invalid.

The new laws on the sale of children will be following soon as surrogacy becomes legal in Australia. Heterosexual couples wanting to adopt will be denied as preference is given to homosexual males. Children will be removed from parents who do not approve SSM. Businesses will dismiss staff that do not approve of SSM and these have already happened. Open discussion on SSM will become illegal and considered the same as racism.

As shown on this thread SSM opinionated persons will become immature and disrespectful of difference of opinion and seek every opportunity to bully.