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No Thanks: New Zealand offer on Manus Illegals.

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morning ,im happily married and have been in a relationship and married since 2009. My now wife has 3 children which i treat as my own. Im a native born Aussie the wife and boys are PNG and is now a permanent resident and to be a citizen shortly. All are enthusiastic Australians and making a great success of their opportunities. It cost me in round figures about $20000 for them to come to Aus . Mostly government charges. The process was fair, very bureaucratic of course{the australian disease). To think we are housing ,paying, flying 400 or so uninvited illegal aliens to aus for free medical access to the courts for free curdles my gut
Posted by the pilot, Monday, 6 November 2017 7:45:39 AM
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I understand and sympathise, pilot. Your experience is not uncommon. There are thousands of legal, useful immigrants being dudded and insulted by these illegal crooks and our crooked politicians. If we are to hang onto democracy - looking less likely every day - we all have to speak up against our rotten, incompetent and sel-serving politicians.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 6 November 2017 8:18:39 AM
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Mark Latham's video editorial today went back to Fairfield and still very little English spoken by people coming and going from the the Centrelink office there. Lots of Arabic, almost no English. Latham ask how does a 'multicultural' society work if people can't communicate with each other?
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 6 November 2017 8:39:01 AM
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//The PM, Malcolm Turnbull, has declined a New Zealand offer to take some of the Manus Island illegals//

I don't see how is in a position to decline: they're not ours to give. We've washed our hands of them; if New Zealand wants to volunteer to re-settle some I don't see the problem.

It looks like the government wanting to eat its cake and have it too. Out of one side of their mouth they argue that they shouldn't be our refugees, they should be Somebody Else's Problem. But as soon as Somebody Else comes along volunteering to make them their Problem, then they start arguing out of the other side of their mouth that Somebody Else can't have them because - surprise! - they are ours after all and we're only willing to lend them to certain people, thanks all the same. They used to be quite keen on the idea of regional resettlement - if New Zealand isn't in our region, I don't where is.

Is it too much to ask for them to make up their bloody minds? Are they or are they not our refugees? Because I don't think a majority of voters want them to be ours - but if they aren't ours and we don't want them, are we really in a place to be dictating to other sovereign nations whether or not they can have them?

Surely that's up to the other sovereign nations? Would you be happy to have, say, Germany dictating our refugee intake policy to us? Nah, thought not.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 6 November 2017 2:56:31 PM
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Multi-ethnic is fine but multicultural is not. Culture (singular) unites, liberates, en-nobles. Cultures (plural) divide, enslave, stultify.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 6 November 2017 3:05:05 PM
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Turnbull had a hard time persuading Trump to honour Obama's deal to accept Manus and Nauru prisoners in the USA, and this process is proceeding. Turnbull rightly told New Zealand "not at the moment" because the deal with the USA involving far more prisoners than New Zealand could settle is on a knife edge until the agreed transfer is done and dusted.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 6 November 2017 3:19:16 PM
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