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More To Follow in Dual-Citizen Clean Out.

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WA lawyer, John Cameron, the man who outed Scott Ludlum as a dual citizen, says that he expects that more politicians "will fall foul" of Section 44 of the Constitution in the coming months, many of whom will be British citizens.

Mr. Cameron said. "There's a crying out need for an independent commission into corruption..". And, that's what we are talking about - corruption. What better place to start than the suspiciously quiet Opposition?

The Fat Lady hasn't sung yet. (Source: Courier Mail)
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 29 October 2017 8:48:37 AM
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Good on that lawyer for exposing who these treasonous people are.
Posted by mmadpat, Sunday, 29 October 2017 1:35:59 PM
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Constitutional lawyer, George Williams thinks that the High Court decision on the dual citizenship fiasco was geared to a black letter approach to the law and a 'leaning away' from activism. He also said that it was necessary to have an audit because he suspected that a number of other MPs would be ineligible under Section 44 if their dual citizenship was disclosed.

I like the 'leaning away from activism', and I have to say that the High Court has acted in the responsible manner I did not expect of them.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 29 October 2017 9:55:50 PM
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I agree ttbn, a Federal ICAC is a absolute necessity. Here in NSW if it was not for the ICAC such Labor scum bags as Eddie Obeid, Ian McDonald and Joe Tripodi, may never have been brought to justice. Corruption in politics is not confined to the Labor Party, there was a conga line of Liberals fronting the Commission as well.
Its rather transparent why federal Labor, and the Coalition parties, are opposed to a federal body to independently investigate their own, they have to much to hide.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 30 October 2017 10:56:23 AM
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Yes, Paul. No exceptions. They are all at it, with only the two Greens falling on their swords with honour.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:30:17 AM
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Spot on, Paul and ttbn.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 30 October 2017 4:12:27 PM
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What is required; is that all candidates for election to any parliament in Australia must first pass a competency test of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution before they can even nominate for election.
Posted by Referundemdrivensocienty, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 10:00:28 PM
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Dear Referundemdrivensocienty,

Why, do you deny the rights and intelligence of the voters to choose the person that represents them best? If anyone is to test a candidate, then it's their potential electors.

A candidate's only allegiance should be to the people who elected him/her, not to the Commonwealth of Australia or its constitution!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:04:39 AM
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That would be fine Yuyutsu, provided the electors know enough about the person they are voting for.

We are no longer living in villages, electing tribal councils from people well known. Most are voting for people they know only vaguely, & many of those, like the Greens, try to keep their less popular objectives well hidden from the voters. They know damn well, many would never vote for them if the truth were known.

The same goes for foreign citizens with dual passports, or still holding onto their known foreign citizenship.

The ruling is a bit tough on some who had no idea they had any right to foreign citizenship, but better they lose, than we continue with any with a leaning to any foreign power, or controlling religion.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:51:26 PM
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Hey Paul1405,
I actually support the Greens in an audit. (That'd be a first)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-01/do-we-need-a-citizenship-audit-and-what-would-it-look-like/9106982

Why is it so hard to get to the bottom of this?
If this was a matter of national security; could they actually be this incompetent?
Doesn't ASIO check the backgrounds of our politicians?
Seriously WTF?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 6:25:05 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Regrettably indeed we no longer live in villages, yet the Australian electoral system is still based on the idea that we do.

By all means, the electoral system should be adjusted and one possibility is to introduce virtual-villages of people who think alike: to have a seat in parliament, collect a certain number of supporters (it's a variation on proportional representation).

The village (physical or virtual) should be able to replace its representative at any time (though for a virtual village this would be very difficult to implement without electronic voting). Also, a village could take whatever measures it finds necessary in order to ensure that its candidate is sincere and has no hidden agenda.

If despite knowing their candidate well enough, a village leans towards a foreign power or whatever, then it should be able to send the candidate that will best represent their views.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 5 November 2017 10:50:30 PM
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