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Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 26 October 2017 3:34:18 PM
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Armchair Critic asks: “Did it sound like I was joking?”
That can be difficult to tell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 26 October 2017 3:37:17 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,
History is clear that in 1939, Stalin and Hitler were allies against the free people of Europe. In accomplishing their mutual goals, the dictators used their respective political parties, the Communist Party of the USSR and the National Socialist German Workers' Party, to rid their societies of all political opposition. Each party had its enforcers - the Communists, their NKVD (now the KGB) and the Nazis their Gestapo. For all practical purposes, both security police organisations used the same inhumane methods in their operations. The NKVD and the Gestapo used informers, collaborators and assistants from among the very people they set out to enslave or destroy. Some assisted voluntarily, while others collaborated because of fear or weakness. And as stated earlier there were also, of course, numerous courageous men and women who refused to participate in the subjugation and destruction of the targeted groups and individuals. Surely today - there is enough hatred in the world without us adding to it? What we should be concerned about is trying to ensure that our children and grand-children do not have to experience the atrocities that our past generations did. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 October 2017 3:55:59 PM
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AC wrote: “Did it sound like I was joking?”
No it didn't...but I was just hoping that you were because the alternative is too sad for contemplation. "Why, does it offend you?" Well I am generally offended by a-historic claptrap not because the views are offensive but because the monumental ignorance and wanton desire to be lead down the garden path is offensive. OTOH your comment/views are in a league of their own. That someone would continue to think that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are valid or that Hitler only acted against the Jews as a defensive measure is astonishing. I guess it demonstrates yet again that people driven by hatred and ignorance are capable of believing anything. But there's little point in arguing the issue... you can't reason someone out of an erroneous view when they weren't reasoned into it. Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 26 October 2017 4:56:46 PM
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"War and Peace"
Either way, not a choice for the masses at all! Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 26 October 2017 8:12:14 PM
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Hey Foxy,
I think in all wars, its the innocent citizens that end up paying the greatest cost. And I don't wish to argue over which regime did the most evil things, suffice to say that I agree terrible things do happen in wars. The West is by no means without criticism either, take 'The Phoenix Program' in Vietnam as an example. On one end of the scale human beings are capable of committing awe inspiring acts of love and kindness, on the other end unspeakable atrocities. This is a fair statement in all races and cultures. I don't doubt that there have been Jews who have interceded to save persecuted Christians, nor would I have reason to doubt that Christians have interceded to save persecuted Jews. I'm sure theres an almost infinite number of times Jews, Christians, Muslims and those of other religious denominations have all simply helped a fellow human being on need, regardless of religion or ethnicity. I agree with your last statement; I think its kind of wrong to blame any one group. Some of the readers might think I'm not as harsh towards Hitlers Germany as I should be; Or maybe many think I lack a compassion towards Israel, and I guess this would be fair. It's not necessarily about choosing sides, but rather simply looking at the facts, and I don't always get it right, I certainly don't know everything; and I reserve the right to change my position if and when new facts become known to me. I agree there's enough hatred in the world, but I think when the facts get twisted so does everything else. I don't dispute anything you said, (except the KGB of the Soviet Union is now the FSB in Russia) and I like your general attitude of 'trying to ensure that our children and grand-children do not have to experience the atrocities that our past generations did'. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 27 October 2017 1:09:07 AM
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Stalin tortured 267million and China did 3821million closely followed by Guevara and Mugabe . Half the world is dead from AIDS.