Aidan,

Yes ASDL is still modulation. I am on a package for $70 that gives me 1TB of data per month and get nearly 25Mb/s.

Cont,

The reason that businesses use copper is not just convenience, it is that the cost of installation, the cost of network switches, and maintenance is far lower (optical links fail too) and that for short distances FO is no faster, and cannot carry POE.

That is the reason why FTTB is far better and cheaper and why FTTN works and is vastly cheaper. For long distances, FO is better, which is why fiber is preferred to the nodes.

Shadow. in what carriage of Malcolm's train wreck were you riding in. I think you're in the CABOOSE!

Shadow,

So where did you get the idea that "switching to NBN would simply increase the price of the internet by 100%"? In reality, for the same price you're paying now, you can get unlimited data on the NBN - see https://www.iinet.net.au/internet-products/broadband/nbn/

I have already acknowledged the sense in using FTTB. But FTTN is a ludicrous false economy. Not only is there a costly extra modulation stage (which I'm glad you now admit exists) but there's still significant reliability issues due to water ingress. And it's likely to prove itself totally inadequate for future needs.

Dear Aidan,

«And it's likely to prove itself totally inadequate for future needs.»

So you promote neediness?!

If I don't need it today, why would I need it tomorrow?

I am happy with just a simple phone line, plus even a dialup service to do my banking, perhaps an OLO comment here and there.

So what if you could get unlimited data on the NBN - you might as well have them drill another hole in your bottom!

The whole thing was a disaster from the outset, aimed among other things to bring the bush into line with the cities. What a joke.

Anyone who thinks it is affordable to provide a network spanning hundreds of km between users, just so that user can have fast internet is quite simply living in a fantasy world, and this was always the problem from the get go. Its like starting a service station in an area that has no roads, it would be destined to fail.

The reality is, stupid people will continue do stupid things, and get away with it because their actions don't effect them personally and, they are not accountable for their actions.

The real victims are those who rely on 100% of their income just to survive, and the pollies don't fall in to this category and there in lies the problem.

One can only dream of where we might be now if not for the debacle that started some ten years ago, which started the downward spiral, a spiral that I wont see a return from, and seriously doubt my kids will, perhaps even my grand kids.

So much for the change we had to have. apparently!