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Are vaccines safe?

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//10 deaths linked to anti-flu vaccines//

"Based on actuarial data from Australia and overseas observations, it is believed that there are some 1,500-3,500 influenza-related deaths annually in Australia."

So that's 1,500-3,500 compared to your whopping ten. I know which odds I'd back.

You can count can't you?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 15 October 2017 11:22:58 AM
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Sorry, forgot the link I sourced my quote from. Very poor form.

http://www.isg.org.au/index.php/about-influenza/impact-of-influenza/
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 15 October 2017 11:24:07 AM
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//does this not answer your stupid questions already?//

No, you haven't addressed any of my points.

I asked you to identify who was responsible for claiming that vaccines are 100% (because it isn't me, and it certainly isn't medical professionals, public health authorities, or vaccine manufacturers).

You haven't. You've gone quite about it for now, but at some point in the future you'll be back repeating the same claim - without ever identifying who these people might be.

I pointed out that parents are well informed of the possible side effects of vaccines by their GP's, and that the requirement for parents to give informed consent before ANY medical procedure can be performed on their children is enshrined in Australian law and medical ethics.

You have failed to acknowledge this. Again, you've gone quite about it for now... but in due course you'll be back to repeat your already refuted claims.

And I asked you to provide evidence for your claim that parents who refuse to give consent for vaccination are denied centrelink benefits or referred to child protective services, as that claim is a bold-faced lie.

Once again, unsurprisingly, you failed to provide any evidence for your claim, and once again you have fallen silent on the subject, biding your time for the day that you think I will have forgotten that you've previously made this claim then failed to back it up.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 15 October 2017 11:40:20 AM
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Toni,
"So that's 1,500-3,500 compared to your whopping ten. I know which odds I'd back."

Well tough luck if your kids one of those 10 hey.
This topic asks 'Are vaccines safe?'

I think the parents of those 10 might rightly argue they aren't.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 15 October 2017 11:19:40 PM
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The majority wins the numbers game. Where do non vaxers get their frigidity about vacination, self diagnoses or misdiagnoses or religion.
Where would we be with out vaccines, relying on god to fix the pox, polio, measels, whooping cough. Your minority stance is killing multitudes that do not have a choice.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 4:58:40 PM
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//tough luck if your kids one of those 10//

But also if they're one of the 1,500-3,500. If your child dies, it is 'tough luck' irrespective of the cause of death.

Sadly, life isn't fair and people do suffer misfortune.

But if you can take simple steps to minimise the risk of misfortune, like having your children vaccinated, then why wouldn't you?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 5:30:23 PM
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