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Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 7:45:39 PM
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Everyone, have some respect for this site and our people and humanity. But not for the bludgers trying to slip in the back door on boats to live off what we have worked for.
Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 9:25:13 PM
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Hi Paul,

The resort to ad hominem is usually a good sign that someone has run out of argument.

What are the issues here ?

* there are more than sixty five million refugees around the world;

* many of them have applied for entry into Australia as refugees, and then had to sit back and wait, sometimes for more than ten years;

* there is a queue;

* Australia can take in only so many refugees each year;

* anybody trying to jump the queue is being turned back.

So what's your solution to this chronic problem ? A larger annual refugee intake ? So, how many do you reckon ? Will this stop people trying to jump the queue who have enough cash to pay smuggler on old boats ?

Take your time, have a good think about it all, and get back to us :)

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 6:54:00 AM
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"But not for the bludgers trying to slip in the back door on boats to live off what we have worked for."

JF, does that respect extend to children, or as Hasbeen suggests
"It doesn't take many 50 Cal rounds to sink a wooden or even steel boat. Eliminate the first few, & no more follow."

As Robert posted "With the current ethnic cleansing in Myanmar and the flight of the Rohingas to Bangladesh the pressure is going to mount in this area."

Are these people bludgers if they want to escape the horrors that are unfolding in their homeland?

Newsflash JF, if I was in their position I would do my up most to get my family and myself to safety, and hopefully a better life for us all, If it means landing in your backyard all I can say is "hal-loooooo brother!".
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 7:05:34 AM
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Paul1405.

Using babies in discussion is weak and can be tantamount to child abuse.

Anyone so affected as you indicate can apply to the nearest Australian Embassy without spending so much of their poverty stricken cash money on illegal people smuggling.
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 7:15:17 AM
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Joe, Myth: Asylum seekers are queue jumpers. There is no queue like at the supermarket.

Seeking asylum is not a way of ‘jumping the queue’ but is one normal way to apply for protection as a refugee. Resettlement is another way, it exists to help people who cannot return home once conditions have improved.
Even for refugees who are in need of resettlement, there is no orderly resettlement ‘queue’ to join. In practice, the resettlement system works more like a lottery than a queue. While UNHCR which is in charge of the refugee resettlement program aims to prioritise those in greatest need, most refugees – even people in very vulnerable situations – cannot realistically expect to be resettled in the near future, if ever. Many refugees cannot even access UNHCR’s resettlement processes. Resettlement accounts for less than 1% of the worlds refugees per year.
Asylum seeking should not be confused with resettlement.

Your questions to me are immaterial to the problem. or its solution.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 7:32:01 AM
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