AJP,

Does sociology 101 replace microbiology 101?

Dr Kerry Phelps should be ashamed of herself and I can expect she will be feeling the heat from many in her own, and surrounding, profession/s. Then she dares to go on to talk about mental health, which is probably really the topic you were actually trying to refer to, yet doesn't dare talk about the suicide rate of gender surgery.

The yes vote are trying to fool our children.

Does AJP think it's actually funny to try and get kids to role play as same sex couples and possibly get them to 'come out' in front of their friends by accident and never be able to live it down when they decide they aren't actually gay and just got confused by the forced role-play?

AJP: you're dangerous!

AJP: where's your sociology 101 now? The slipper slope fallacy only applies to relatively small steps and if you were to try and argue that ssm is a relatively small step then you are the biggest joke that ever typed on an internet forum anywhere in the whole world: because that is some seriously high class farce there brother.

You don't have to tell me some gays couples have children from previous relationships because I remember some of my childhood friends parents turning gay later in life.

I simply said same sex couples can't have kids. If you want to encourage this obviously unnatural behaviour then I find your position one of advocating torture.

A Mother and a Father give a child the best balance in life and those that don't have it have problems. Why doesn't Kerryn Phelps go into the mental health story there?

Then we could argue the statistical significance of her figures...

You, sir, are dangerous!

You don't even know what sociology 101 is. Do you?

That's the campaign for the yes vote: pure bulldust! Trying to fool the kids of Australia.... this countrys future: and you identify from the right?

Hang on, you've got your get-out-of-jail clause coming up don't ya- just like Daddy taught you. (You vote no for a different reason, yeh blah blah blah the right were born to rule blah blah blah etc!)

You're just walking both sides of the fence mate.

No, Cupric Embarrasment, it doesn’t?

<<Does sociology 101 replace microbiology 101?>>

Who suggested that it does or that it should need to?

<<Dr Kerry Phelps should be ashamed of herself and I can expect she will be feeling the heat from many in her own, and surrounding, profession/s.>>

I’ll take your word for that.

<<Then she dares to go on to talk about mental health, which is probably really the topic you were actually trying to refer to …>>

“Trying to”, as if I’d somehow failed to do so. I like it.

If you knew that, then why compare sociology to microbiology?

<<… yet doesn't dare talk about the suicide rate of gender surgery.>>

I don’t see why she wouldn’t (presuming it’s even high). How about you enlighten us?

<<Does AJP think it's actually funny to try and get kids to role play as same sex couples and possibly get them to 'come out' in front of their friends by accident and never be able to live it down when they decide they aren't actually gay and just got confused by the forced role-play?>>

I don’t know. How about you ask him?

<<where's your sociology 101 now?>>

Standing strong and completely unaffected by your confused and erratic rambling, apparently.

<<The slipper slope fallacy only applies to relatively small steps …>>

Oh, so you’re a sock puppet for mememememememe (Or is it the other way around?).

No, the slippery slope fallacy does not only apply to relatively small steps. It applies to any attempt to distract from the issue at hand by shifting attention to extreme hypotheticals.

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/162/Slippery-Slope

<<… and if you were to try and argue that ssm is a relatively small step …>>

As I said to your sock puppet, in relation to what?

<<A Mother and a Father give a child the best balance in life and those that don't have it have problems.>>

References, please?

<<You don't even know what sociology 101 is . Do you?>>

Yes, I do. Sociology is a major component of a Bachelor of Criminology. Clearly you don't, though.

AJP voted for copper internet and now we know why! (He's a complete tripper!!)

Yuyutsu,

In hindsight the discussion topic would have read better, if I had referred to the implications on future generations (or further policy or legislation development) in terms of the proposed opinion poll.

The reason I related to children, was that I am currently undertaking research for a book I intend to publish. Such research goes back to one's childhood and it is something that cannot be written off.

This article in regards to IVF: "Chloe Allworthy’s life changed when she found her real dad", gives some further background to the matter and research being undertaken by individuals in 2017.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/chloe-allworthys-life-changed-when-she-found-her-real-dad/news-story/636605685ef60987832cedd394e607f5

So arguments, in regards to IVF or surrogacy programs that state such practices occur at present, making such activity acceptable, are questionable. Societal elements such as terrorism, murder and domestic violence also occur in society, but many will not simply accept these.

Finally, in terms of voting 'yes' or 'no' and Australia's direction as a nation, this is important. This particular process is not an election, there are no preferences involved and my or others vote (if one feels compelled to vote) will show that Australia's direction, can be a decision of one's own self. The only downside is that it will be driven by the simplicity of two elements, 'yes' or 'no', of which people have been somewhat forced to accept.

<<Then she dares to go on to talk about mental health, which is probably really the topic you were actually trying to refer to …>>

“Trying to”, as if I’d somehow failed to do so. I like it.

If you knew that, then why compare sociology to microbiology?

==> ajp is off his head !