"perverting the marriage act will just encourage more into the homosexual lifestyle" - so tempted to have a dig at runner over the state of his certainty of sexual orientation to consider that a real issue.

Overall I think that social pressure for people to live as though their orientation was something other than what it is is very unhealthy for them and those they marry.

R0bert

Gay couples already have full parenting rights, and neither party has any intention of repealing that legislation.

It's no use trying to shut the barn door once the horse has bolted.

If you were worried about it at the time, you should have dug in your position then. Because now you're caught on the retreat, arguing against well established legislation that isn't going to be repealed when you should be focusing your efforts on the battle at hand. Poor strategy.

Yuyutsu,

Love is not about possession, it’s all about appreciation - a Chinese Proverb.

So the debate on the non-binding opinion poll will be difficult to calculate. Some accept the process, but others wish to see the process fall to its detriment.

In regards to the 'yes' versus 'no' debate, people have raised questions in regards to legislation, with some seeing a 'yes' vote as a way to push for easier access to surrogacy programs in Australia, with some ethicists also raising concerns about future customed designed children.

The problem with Australia is that there are varying laws in states and territories on this matter and many are accessing programs overseas. I personally do not support any type of surrogacy, as per the above Proverb.

If a person (who cannot have a child through birth) in principle believes love is important, they will much more appreciate a person's roots and connection to a biological family, not possession under a position of having a child in a loving environment.

Aj phillips, you are wrong.

The argument is over the word marriage being used by the gay community. Setting up strawmen arguments to knock them down is what propaganda is all about.

The other type of false argument being used by the yes campaign is to falsely accuse the no campaign of using the fallacy of the slippery slope argument. This only applies to relatively small initial steps.

To try and argue that ssm is a relatively small step is high farce and the no vote can see the boldfaced propaganda when the fake media pretend they don't know this.

The no vote are very awake to all this flim-flammery!

Get off the greed train, people, or your society will be taken away by tricksters who know your kids can't see where the attacks on its own society are coming from.

Attacks on the church are attacks on Western Civilisation and they aren't new: this has all been going on for a long time but your kids don't know that. Wake up and start protecting your kids...now!

Toni, who exactly is guilty of using poor strategy?

//Toni, who exactly is guilty of using poor strategy?//

The French.