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Magistrates or Mice?

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It seems that “sack-clad” Muslims have twigged that they can avoid showing respect for Australian courts (by not standing) if they arrive AFTER the magistrate is seated.

This occurred in a Melbourne court the day after a group of burka-swaddled supporters of a defendant were lectured the previous day (no penalty, as applied by another magistrate recently) for not acknowledging the supremacy of the court the day before.

People entering a court after the magistrate or judge is seated are expected to pause briefly and bow towards the bench. Ten to one they didn't even extend that courtesy, either.

It's getting away with defiant acts like this that is gradually eroding any chance authorities have of pulling people who hate our culture into line, and proving to Muslims that they can get us to wear ourselves down “by our own hand” as promised.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 25 August 2017 10:48:50 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

Nobody can show respect if they don't have any.
What you are trying to do is to promote fear, rather than respect.
At best you are trying to promote hypocrisy.
If you want people to love your culture, then try to prove its merits.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 25 August 2017 12:49:05 PM
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Yuyutsu,

I am not trying to promote "fear" or " hypocrisy". I am doing nothing. The LAW requires people attending court to stand when magistrates and judges enter. And, if people do not respect our laws and culture, they should not be here. We don't have to prove anything. However, I do recognise the fact that you do not respect Australian culture. You never stop telling us that.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 25 August 2017 1:22:04 PM
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Dear Ttbn,

«The LAW requires people attending court to stand when magistrates and judges enter.»

It is not "The" law, it is Your law.

Now some people discovered a peaceful way around it - good on them!

So long as they are peaceful, you have no rights over them.
By making those demands on others, you are the one who is not peaceful.

«if people do not respect our laws and culture, they should not be here»

Simply because you do not like those who do not do as you tell them. You really think that you own this place, this continent and this planet...

«I do recognise the fact that you do not respect Australian culture»

Why, there are aspects that I do respect and others that I don't. What has this to do with anything?

What I do not respect is oppression, telling others how they must live.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 25 August 2017 1:39:16 PM
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There's the Law of 18c.
And crims in suits who bow to the magistrate after chopping up their family.
"s 24 Local Court Act 2007. contempt of court committed in the face or hearing of the court: s 24(1).

Examples of contempt include:

abusing and swearing at a magistrate:

refusing to answer questions:

refusing to take the oath or give evidence:

refusing to leave the court when directed:

Generally, rudeness and even extreme discourtesy by legal practitioners, will not be considered to be contempt:"
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Muslims who refuse to stand do it from belief that Muhammed said not to stand for him , so they don't do it for anyone , not even Kevin or Julia . Can't stand them.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 25 August 2017 2:01:55 PM
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Before entering a mosque visitors are asked to
take off their shoes. This is a sign of respect.
If you have a strong objection to walking in
your socks, don't enter the mosque.

Before coming to Australia you will be asked to
subscribe to certain values. If you have strong
objections to those values, don't come to
Australia.

We have laws in this country that we are all expected
to abide by. Therefore respecting Australian laws
and customs such as standing for a magistrate or
judge should be non-negotiable.

Any attempt to placate recalcitrant hot heads by
giving in to their unreasonable demands will only
lead to greater shows of disrespect and noncompliance.
People who exploit the freedoms of this nation to follow
their own ideology have the gall to demand we respect their
belief system while they deride our values. Refusing to
stand in court may seem trivial to some but it speaks of
an attitude that must not be tolerated or ignored.
There is nothing to be gained and plenty to be lost by
tolerating abhorrent attitudes in the interests of
cultural or religious diversity.

This not standing in court is such a problem in NSW
the the government has proposed a new law where the
penalty will be up to 14 days in jail and a $1100 fine.

I would simply ask those who refuse to stand - to
leave the courtroom. No ifs or buts. And if they refuse
to leave they will be escorted out by security guards.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 25 August 2017 3:24:49 PM
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