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How Are These Immigrants Contributing To Australia?

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Steele, you know as well as we all know that only if you have the
access that someone who works for Centrelink would know about how
large a problem it actually is .
Only the pollies can actually get at the size of the problem.
There is a moslem trend of not being exactly lawful. It comes from its
tribal background and practises in their homelands.
We have seen it here in very recent days.
The insurance companies have seen it all with the Lebanese car crashes
and the well known Lebanese stocktakes.

In corrupt countries, the people see no point in obeying the law.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 17 August 2017 11:35:18 PM
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Foxy,

I had a look at your dated reference - a lot has happened in two years. I also had a look at the posts under the article. There wasn't a lot of enthusiasm for the writer's point of view
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 August 2017 11:48:56 PM
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ttbn, looking like a hairless Cousin Itt (Addams Family) was amusing, I did laugh, until she took it off then I really laughed. The woman's a joke every time she opens her mouth.

Language is always changing, and the meaning of words change, to apply only the older staid narrow definition of a word, and not accept its broader change of meaning over time is incorrect. The word "racists" is such a case. Where the narrow definition of applying only to race, was true at one time, it's now accepted as applying to a group, in some instances such as Muslims, black people. If you do not accept racists in that context, then at best it's discrimination based on a particular aspect of a group, in this case the Muslim religion
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 August 2017 5:47:38 AM
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We well recognise Paul as a leftist proponent is supporting political correctness, and the Muslim religion. The Muslim community recognise we have a law making racism a criminal offense. They hide behind this veil of race so that Islam cannot be challenged. However many white Australians have adopted Islam; in Paul's view these white converts are now of the Arab race.

Paul and his ilk no longer defend our Western values
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 18 August 2017 9:19:43 AM
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SR,

While I am not personally a fan of a lot of what CB stands for, on this issue I agree with him primarily because the facts do, and your post and Foxy's were exactly a feeble attempt to rubbish his character to justify claiming that everything he said was BS.

Here I have "put up" as to the "contribution" or lack of it that the refugees/economic migrants that labor brought in. Perhaps you would care to "put up".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-14/only-one-in-20-newly-resettled-refugees-employed-after-six-mont/6773922

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2015/09/latest-study-of-refugees-settled-in-australia-90-on-welfare-50-never-held-a-job-here-or-home-country.html

http://www.news.com.au/national/a-world-of-long-term-welfare-for-refugees/news-story/eb89247591634a539dd2c71cb0a1cb37

"MORE than 90 per cent of surveyed refugees granted permanent visas under the previous Labor government had failed to find a job within three to six months, forcing the majority to rely on government welfare to survive, a new report has revealed.

Despite 80 per cent claiming to feel “welcomed by Australia”, the social difficulties they faced were immense, according to the first government study to follow the new wave of humanitarian ­migrants.

Almost half reported they had never had a job in their lives, and 15 per cent had never attended school in their birth country.

Almost 40 per cent reported not understanding or speaking English, with only 10 per cent having a university degree and just 6 per cent being qualified for a trade. Only 7.8 per cent had qualifications recognized in Australia"
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 18 August 2017 9:59:04 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

What nonsense.

You attempted to elevate an email supposedly sent by Cory Bernardi to an anonymous forum member on the linked site quoting figures from a supposedly ex-Centrelink employee who we do not know the identity of and therefore can not be challenged in any way. We had no indication that Cory make any attempts to verify the origin of the email nor its supposed case study.

You then claim it must be true because you “trawled through the ABS stats about a year ago what I saw pretty much agrees with what CB stated”.

When I asked for that data you instead gave me news links including one for Michael Smith News of all places.

Let's deal with the news.com article.

“The study of more than 8500 humanitarian entrants revealed that only 31 per cent of humanitarian refugees were considered "employed" after five years. The remainder were unemployed, retired, studying full time, engaged in caring duties, doing voluntary work or trying to start a business from which they had yet to receive income. More than 60 per cent of those people without jobs had a poor command of English.”
So the figures of the 'not-employed' included the stay at home mums (possibly higher because of cultural factors), students, retired people and those who had yet to derive money from a business they had started.
So this gives us a non-participation rate of 69%. The national rate of non-participation rate stands at 35% but this does not include retired people.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6202.0

Do I think the government could do more to address the differences? Sure. But I do not think the figures are that out of whack given the circumstances and cultures these unfortunate people are rescued from. The 10 and 20 year statistics will give a better picture.

Now where on earth are your ABS figures?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 18 August 2017 10:39:02 AM
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