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How Are These Immigrants Contributing To Australia?

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"The Church has a lot to answer"

Many would agree with that but add the State.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/09/uk-child-deportations-of-50s-most-catastrophic-child-abuse-in-memory

Former ABC chairman David Hill urges inquiry to 'name villains' of child migrant abuse in Australia

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/27/child-abuse-survivor-inquiry-name-villains-children-australia
Posted by leoj, Monday, 21 August 2017 10:28:23 PM
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Foxy,

The requirement in Islam is for women to be "modest" not to wear the burqa. This garment is more closely associated with religious extremism as the swastika is associated with nationalist extremism, and I don't believe either should be tolerated.

Prior to the 70's the burqa was foreign to 99% of Muslims, and In Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey, etc Burqas were very seldom seen. The burqa is almost exclusively worn in Saudi Arabia and its satellite states where the extremist Wahabism form of Islam is practised and is associated with women being treated as chattels, honour killings, child brides, female genital mutilation etc.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:28:09 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Please don't misunderstand me.

Pauline Hanson's burqa stunt gave her the cheap
publicity she was seeking. It gave One Nation a
major free kick as the Queensland State Election
approaches. I was perturbed by her prank because I
found her argument of security reasons to be
wrong.

However I am not defending the burqa by
any means and I apologise if that is the impression
I have given.

Calls for a burqa should be on the
grounds of equality and assimilation, not
national security.

Countries such as France,
Belgium and the Netherlands did not ban the burqa and
niqab because of the threat of terror but because
full face veils are dehumanising and obstruct social
cohesion - security concerns were a secondary matter.

The European Court of Human Rights has upheld the
burqa ban on those very same grounds.

What Pauline Hanson did was not only self-serving. She
had the wrong argument.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 1:59:30 PM
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cont'd ...

Sorry for my omission of the word "ban."

The sentence should read -

"Calls for a burqa ban should be on the grounds
of equality and assimilation, not national security."
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 2:04:58 PM
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Again, these are the burka politics, starring Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane and others,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-02/parliament-burka-rules-introduced/5786132

The public are exasperated with that. It reminds parents of the kids in school (and their idiotic parents) who stretch rules on uniforms and waste the School Council's time on their childish oppositional defiance.

There are places where all face covering that is not required by workplace health and safety should be removed. Examples could be, picking up children from care and school, in public places generally and definitely in Parliament House. Where necessary that could apply to head covering, eg., hoodies.
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 6:40:59 PM
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Foxy,

While security might be a secondary issue, it is an issue. In the last months of ISIS rule in Mosul ISIS banned women going out in public wearing the burqa because resistance fighters were using it to provide cover to knock off ISIS fighters.

I'm not looking for a total ban, just from certain public places where face coverings pose a threat.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 5:41:53 AM
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