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Dual Citizenship revisited

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Dear Paul,

I hear the Nationals have applied to change the party name, from hence forth they would like to be known as the 'Dual Nationals'.

Dear Shadow Minister,

I have no problem with judging the Green senators as idiots, that is your right. What you don't get to do is not applying the same assessment to the two Nationals and not expect to be picked up on it.

Given who has been caught up there is a reasonable indication that this is more an issue for the minor parties like the Greens, the Nationals and One Nation. The time and resources that go into vetting candidates must be considerable and the larger the party machine the more likely it is to be thorough.

I am therefore of the mind to cut them some slack for that reason. We need this fixed and I would like to see the role of initially vetting prospective candidates given to the AEC with appropriate funding. Our constitution should not be treating minor parties unfairly.

Perhaps you might like to think about solutions rather than base partisan politics.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 18 August 2017 1:33:28 PM
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"vetting prospective candidates given to the AEC with appropriate funding"

From that bucket of tax money that never runs out?

What about Joe Public? Would they be excused from completing government forms too?

Aspiring politicians get enormous help already and gratis.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 18 August 2017 1:51:38 PM
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Prospective candidates for office should vet themselves, it ain't hard!

There is a simple choice, keep dual citizenship or lessen one's ambitions and renounce it and run for public office.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 18 August 2017 3:14:29 PM
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Steele, the Dual-Nationals like to get into bed with the Muti Nationals. Then there is the Wicked Witch of the North, she is a National Disgrace, along with her side kick who is a National Disaster. The Nationals have it.

Gee, leoj gone quite on this since your boy from Multi Nation, Muddled Up Malcolm Roberts got pinged. Where are those calls for restitution you screamed when it was a couple of Greens involved. You demanded pay back of years of wages from Scott Ludlum and Larissa Waters, What do you have to say now?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 August 2017 7:43:22 PM
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SR,

You seem to be struggling with the concept of probability and expectation. Here's a brief tutorial:

I was not surprised that the sun rose this morning because the probability was very high. However, I would be surprised if I won my workplace lottery, as the odds are > 100:1. I would be stupid to be surprised at the sun rising or planning my future lifestyle on a lottery ticket.

Similarly, being born overseas and not expecting foreign citizenship is wildly unrealistic, whereas being born in Aus and having dual citizenship without it being claimed is far less likely.

Given the past tendency in Parliament not to call for proof of Aus only citizenship the expectation would be that dual citizens would never be called to account, I would hazard that the due diligence tests on all sides were at best perfunctory.

As for the two Green MPs that were born in countries that grant citizenship at birth, calling them idiots is the lesser of what I believe which is that they are outright liars who never expected to be called to account.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 20 August 2017 10:18:26 AM
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Not bad Shadow, coming from one who supports a party of habitual lairs.
BTW, how are you going with that Bolt case, a case of public mischief you seen fit to defend. According to you "an arrest is imminent!" You get it so wrong, so often.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 20 August 2017 2:59:20 PM
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