Paul1405,

As you rush to demonstrate, on this forum you have a record for idiocy, disruption and distorting the truth, usually complete distain for the truth, that are second to none.

On firearms you have shown a lack of interest in the regulations that you flip flop trashing and applauding. You just wouldn't have a clue.

Your mob the Greens are the very last to be trusted where public safety and good are concerned. But they are very strong on protecting the 'rights' of criminals in particular those Middle Eastern OMG drug trafficking gangs and they want 'open borders' and 'diversity' to import more gangs.

You have no credibility on the subject at all and the NSW'Eastern Bloc' Greens are just *bleep*-stirrers, out for some can to kick now that Greens days of riding bareback on gays are almost over.

Why should anyone be taking any notice of grubs who chase ambulances anyhow? No compassion and no sense to wait for the facts, just gall.

Should be, "... a record for idiocy, disruption and distorting the truth, usually complete disdain for the truth, that is second to none".

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

Fight as you will my friend, there's something about men or males, when it comes to F/A's their respective personalities strangely alter? Don't get me wrong, I don't mean they suddenly become raging monsters course not, they 'seem' to become much more possessive over their F/A's. I think I mentioned, I'd spent time in Licensing as a penance (no O/T etc), and whenever we'd either visited or called someone in for a 'chat' the very mention of their non-compliance with a F/A could nearly have the poor bugger crying, alternatively very angry. You could go through the entire spectrum of human emotions with some people!

Another instance of my continued incredulity of the apparent dominion and leverage F/A's seem to have over some people, I've repeated herein. Brief facts: I had a job where a bloke of 20/21 YOA sat on the en-suite toilet, and placed his Dad's cheap 'n nasty 'Boito' 12g SS Shotty in his mouth and blew the top of his head, virtually off. After the Coroner, I sought his disposition of all property including the shotgun, he directed that it be given into the care custody and control of the Commissioner of Police (a usual direction). Remember, this was well before Port Arthur and the subsequent tightening of the F/A's laws. A couple of months after the matter was finalised, the father of the deceased, made application to have the F/A returned to him as he was the rightful owner, and had a receipt to prove it? I spoke to the boss, he said return all property to the father.

I ask anyone reading this topic...I'm no wilting flower but, would anybody here want to have the very weapon that your beloved (albeit disturbed) Son, had killed himself with? What's the bloke going to do with it? Create a shrine to his deceased son, go shooting, sell the thing, he'd get little for it. It was one of the very cheapest single barrel shotguns on the market in those days, less than $100 new, in any gun store in George Street, Sydney?

o sung wu,

The ghoulish tabloid media (is that all of the media these days?) are having a field day, sensationalising a tragedy. Apparent conflicting 'facts' in the media reports too.

The media make the news. So do the grubs who suddenly appear, chasing the ambulance, to spruik for their own secondary agenda, or just to be noticed.

Sickening.

Allegedly this involved a sawn-off shotgun. There are 'interesting' circumstances.
Maybe waiting for the evidence is a good thing to do.

Hi there LEOJ...

You're quite right the media in all it's forms do little to acquaint the public with the legitimate truth. Often they do more harm than anything else, demanding answers to this 'n that of investigating police and getting in the road of inquiries and surveying a crime scene. These 'crime reporters' they've got running about in Melbourne, seek not to deliver the facts, rather to obfuscate those facts in order to capitalise upon what available information and data they do possess, and later fill it in with material, that might sound right, and will make good copy for their adoring public?

As a former squad detective sergeant it makes the job that much harder when you have these so called journalists bothering investigator's with inane questions, and in so doing very nearly contaminating a crime scene, thus losing valuable evidence that's no longer available for the preliminary hearing, that needs to be held later, post an arrest?

Dear o sung wu,

I hear you my friend I really do. I have two males on my wife's side who have firearms in their houses much to the discomfort of their partners.

We really are returning to a place where gun ownership for every Australian, usually male, is considered a right that should be exercised just to preserve some perverted idea of manhood.

Just a few months before these shootings the NSW parliament watered down some more gun laws.

“The changes that were passed by parliament in May included removing a requirement for gun owners to attend court and face a fine and/or a jail sentence for breaches of storage rules. Instead, police are now able to issue a penalty notice. Police are also no longer required to seize improperly stored firearms and ammunition if they are "satisfied that the failure has been rectified or will be rectified without delay".
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/girls-death-sparks-call-to-reverse-watered-down-nsw-gun-storage-laws-20170828-gy5rsc.html

Now the firearm in this latest incident would appear to have been illegally held but what we are seeing is lax attitudes being promulgated by lax laws.

This watering down is going on in most states in this country and is a travesty to what we had managed to do after Port Arthur.

I am sad to say I really feel we are marching blindly toward not only more of our kids being victims to guns but God forbid a fresh mass shooting. Well those gun worshiping forum members had better get use to me pointing the finger every bloody time it happens because this is on the lot of them. Sick, sick puppies.