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An end to fossil fueled cars?

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Britain's Government is set to ban the sale of petrol and diesel cars from 2040, when all vehicles must be fully electric as part of a plan to clean up air pollution, reports say.

The move follows a similar announcement earlier this month by the French Government.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-26/uk-to-ban-sales-of-petrol-diesel-fuelled-cars-from-2040-reports/8744076

How long before our addled Leaders follow suit?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:17:49 AM
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"How long before our addled Leaders follow suit?"

Hey, what a beaut excuse for study trips abroad.

Jets fuelled up and ready, 'Never you mind, politicians' air travel doesn't affect that global warming'.
Posted by leoj, Thursday, 27 July 2017 10:49:10 AM
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It will not be long Is Mise.
Some problems with this idea.
The first is price.
Take the Nissan Leaf for example. A very good city car.
I would have bought one except for the price.
In the US around $27,000 including a tax rebate.
In the UK around $A30,000.
In Australia $57,000 !

It is the usual Great Australian Ripoff.

Almost all my travel these days is fairly local.
A range of 140 to 170 Km is OK for most city use.
A friend has a Mitsubishi Miev used daily for commuting to work.
$1-50 a week costs for off peak charging and no service charges.

In the UK there are charging points at most service points on main highways.
The problem for country people who are a long way from towns that
they frequently visit would demand hybrids.
The new Tesla model 3 has a range of 300km if I remember correctly
and is selling in the US for around $US30,000.
In Australia they are quoting $A50,000 plus for 2018 or 19.

To sum up, range is the problem for country people and price is
everyones problem.

I would definitely buy one if it was not for the price ripoff.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 27 July 2017 10:56:28 AM
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This article prompted me to recheck prices in the UK.
The new price seems to be now 27,000 pounds.
Which is around $A50,000.
Some suggestion that large discounts are available.
The BMW i3 is the same price.
So it will be interesting to see what is happening in future
as sales of electric cars is rising quite significantly.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 27 July 2017 11:34:17 AM
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Obviously you don't live in South Australia Bazz. Just imagine the number of power failures SA could have, if people had to charge a couple of million cars by their Mickey Mouse windmill power system.

I think it is very inconsiderate of these ratbag politicians to wait so long to do this. I have now stopped breeding horses completely, & now the fools are legislating the breeding them to become almost as profitable as building windmills.

The young bloke down the road who has just become a qualified wheelwright, should make a fortune. He makes those old fashioned wooden wheels, shod with a ring of steel. We'll need millions of them to help carry us back to the stone age, with all the gullible politicians in the western world.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:08:35 PM
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Ahhh yes Hasbeen, whatever the pollies do it is always too late or
too early or too small or too big but never exactly right.
In the UK the new decision only affects cars and vans because a truck
if it had enough batteries would have no payload room left.

If the oil tankers stop arriving we will need many many draft horses
or we will starve.
Wife just rang to pick her up so will put up more later.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:34:36 PM
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