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Incompetence and citizenship

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Here is a link on what the Australian voters think
about dual citizenship:

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/07/21/voters-ok-with-dual-citizens-in-parliament.html
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 July 2017 6:30:27 PM
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That was a small sample of what some voters think.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 23 July 2017 11:32:05 PM
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Foxy,

I know that you are desperately trying to conflate this issue to affecting everyone, but it's not. This makes no difference to 99.99% of dual citizens and for the tiny handful that wants to run for MP, it requires a tiny sacrifice.

So mocking 2 airheads for a massive self-inflicted cock up affects no one but these two airheads.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 24 July 2017 9:31:37 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I'm not desperately trying to do anything of the sort.

I don't have to.

The link that I gave from SkyNews clearly showed that
a large portion of Australians (46.2 per cent with a
further 9.6 per cent undecided) are not in favour of
the rules that have seen two Greens Senators being
forced to quit Parliament.

The figures speak for themselves.

We all know that the past few weeks have been
the worst in the
modern history of the Australian Greens. I've never
voted for the Greens but I did admire both Scott Ludlum
and Larissa Waters and thought that both represented
the Greens' Parliamentary future.

A shame for our Parliament that we lost such capable
people.

Larissa Waters as has been pointed out by political
commentators - was the party's best media performer.
A great policy brain and an effective campaigner on issues
like the Carmichael coal mine, the health of the Great
Barrier Reef, women in the workplace, and so on. She was
tough and feisty. A needed voice in Parliament.

Scott Ludlum was one of the Senate's best Estimates
questioners. A razor sharp intellect with a sound grasp of
Parliamentary tactics.

Their leaving is a loss not only for the Greens but for all
of us who value talented Parliamentarians no matter which
party they come from.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:01:05 AM
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"Their leaving is a loss not only for the Greens but for all
of us who value talented Parliamentarians no matter which
party they come from."

Their leaving is a boon for Australia and may the rest of their Green mates soon follow.

If Ludlum was such a dill that he didn't know that there had been a Change Org petition about his dual citizenship, some three years ago, then he deserves all that he got, if he did know then he is an incompetent fool for not checking his status, alternatively, he's a liar.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 24 July 2017 12:49:31 PM
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What you are not saying Foxy is that Larissa Waters was forever the superficial, self-entitled Showboat, the Paddle Boat, PB 'Princess'. Even regarding women issues, an easy target, there was nothing real and practical. Just self promoting stunts, in the Senate for instance. And cop that executive pad (linked to previously) that wasn't good enough for her and needed such 'necessities' as a roof top garden. High maintenance. She could empty the Bank of England.

Yet there are longstanding issues affecting almost all women, but fat lot the always-entitled Larissa, or Greens, might care. Foxy, you obviously need a reminder too. See here,

CHERFUL, Saturday, 22 July 2017 10:58:19 PM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=19173&page=0#340825

Political stunts are easy. Criticism and social activism are easy. So very easy to flick a bit of brown stuff. But finding solutions and rolling up sleeves, building, is hard, requiring effort and time. Being constructive and balanced is hard. Taking responsibility is a long hard road, and definitely not for the privileged, self-entitled Larissa. .

The Greens should be learning from this lesson. Or else they are doomed to repeat the same mistake. And at the same times they will be losing the rare leader who might take their many ringed circus on.
Posted by leoj, Monday, 24 July 2017 1:08:05 PM
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