I recently read somewhere that the original 'Rothschild'? decreed in his will that the 'Rothschild' family and their businesses must never be audited. To this day, I believe this still stands. In the absence of transparency and fairness the financial world has had to 'guesstimate' the worth of their empire and in doing so have come up with a conservative $500Trillion. Or more than half the worlds wealth. I am angered by this fact. I would appreciate feedback on this matter, or to put it simply, WHY?. P.S. Any parties with any interest in the 'Rothschilds' or their businesses may not respond.

What Rothschilds do is of no significance to anyone. And who the hell are you to decide who may or may not respond to your stupid post?

I would be far more concerned about Soros who funds socialist like the getup clowns and pushes his gw religion very hard. He desperately tried to get Clinton elected and then funded the spit the dummy violence. Know your enemy not your conspicary theories.

The Rothschild Family according to Encyclopedia
Britannica is the most famous of all European
banking dynasties which for some 200 years exerted
great influence on the economic and indirectly the
political history of Europe. The core banking business
is today in the hands of the 7th generation of
Rothschilds. They were the most successful International
Bankers of the age. And their history makes for a
fascinating read.

The family name is highly respected. It includes the
first Jew elected to the British Parliament, a peerage,
and the list goes on. Also from the 19th century the
family has been known for its considerable charitable
activities, particularly in the arts and education.

Like other wealthy people, giving to charity has been
part of their ethos.

I do have to question the negativity expressed at the
start of this discussion concerning
this family. It seems to me to simply feed into some
sort of hostility. Which smacks of prejudice. It reminds
me of those who dislike Jews for being too capitalistic
and for controlling businesses also disliked them for
being too communistic and subversive of business.
Those who disliked them for being too miserly also
disliked them for giving money to charity, and so on.

Clearly, prejudiced people are not concerned about
genuine characteristics. They simply accept any negative
statement that feeds their hostility.

WHOA, easy there. I don't know where you got all that emotion from but I was asking a very important question. Now it's my turn to treat you as 'hostile'. My question is not based on all the points you made, but if you calm down you will see that I am 'ASKING' not stating. And as for deciding who responds, any response from a pro Rothschild camp is at best a waste of the readers time, as any thinking man would expect anyone pro-Rothschild to come out fighting and on the offensive. So in conclusion I don't know what you are responding to but I would suggest you read the question again and this time if you have any constructive information which answers my question, please supply it and I will be finally informed on the issue. (assuming your source/s is/are verifiable).

Dear ALTRAV,

The claims that you have made in your opening post
were not substantiated by any evidence. You have not
provided us with any sources of your information.
Also you stated that you were angered by the "facts"
that you provided. Hence the assumptions made -
were that you had an axe to grind.

What you need to do is a bit more research on the subject
in question. The finances of the Rothschild Family.
The following link explains:

http://www.investopedia.com/updates/history-rothschild-family/

Also -

Scroll down to the paragraph "The Rothschild Family in the
21st Century". It may clarify things for you.

If that doesn't help you can always contact the
office of - Madame Christine
Lagarde - Managing Director and Chairman of the Executive
Board of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank and
I'm sure that someone there will be able to explain to you
how large organisations and banking corporations are audited.
The following link gives you a choice of contact addresses:

http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/contacts/contacts.aspx

Foxy, I decided to look at your history to get a better understanding of your views and where you stand on things generally. I see you have a problem with Soros. I know of him and some of his antics, compared to the Builderberg group 'The King makers' so called, by comparison, small fry. I now have a better understanding on you and in a very simple conclusion you demonstrate over simplistic views on life with a good handfull of naivety. I wish to make a statement, not a comment; All of the worlds people are good and kind and so on. There is always the 'bad ones', in amongst the 'good ones'. The good ones know they are being taken but for the fact that they don't have the courage or the means to do anything about it. they can, at best, get on a forum and try to either understand what's going on by asking and hoping someone will reply. With the truth, that is. Oh and by the way, don't ever respond to my post with suggestions that a person is a good person because they donate to charity. A family man struggling to survive, yes, but a billionaire? Please once more you display your naivety. Now read the following carefully: They contribute to charities because,wait for it...................IT'S TAX DEDUCTIBLE!

Dear ALTRAV,

You must have read the wrong user index. I do not
have a problem with George Soros. On the contrary.
He is most known as a financial speculator, however,
in my opinion, he's a well-read and wise one who
believes in reason, the supremacy of science, and
the universal brotherhood of humans. All pillars
on which we can build a better future.

As for my views being simplistic and naive?

Why Thank You. I'll take that as a compliment.

fOXY, as I explained in my opening that The information or the 'fact/s' I was referring to, came from other sources, both print and electronic. I did not take notes because like many things I read, they are 'transient'. As opposed to reading for the sake of education. I treat this form of reading as a social endeavour, not a profession. For the record, I have over the years found that the information we seek, more often than not, has been 'tweaked'. Having left me with a very big mis-trust issue. Too often I have found that the truth is out there not in print and pictures. I would like to suggest you may want to follow up on a few of these issues yourself. I know very little about Soros, for example, but it seems you may have unwittingly chosen him to critique, and that's good. It just happens that I have questions about The Rothschids, which began because there were too many pieces missing. The more I looked the more deflections or dead ends I found.

ALTRAV It appears you need to read the book "How to win friends and influence people" it seems you have alienated yourself here.

Dear ALTRAV,

There are so many books on the Rothchild family.
I've just done a brief scroll through. I'm sure
if you were to go into your regional or even
your national library and tell them what you're
after the librarians there will be able to help
you fill in the gaps that are missing.

One good thing for me that's come out of this
discussion is that you've aroused my interest
in this family. Now I'm going to pursue
some of the books I've found about them on the
web. There's a particular one that's caught
my attention - "Plutocrats: A Rothschild Inheritance,"
by George Ireland. It's about four of the Rothschild
brothers and looks interesting. Hopefully my local
library will be able to get a hold of it for me.

Anyway Good Luck.

See you on another discussion.

Cheers.

ALTRAV,
There are a lot of conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds. For example many people believe them to control all the world's central banks except those of countries the USA is (or might soon be) at war with. Of course in reality the USA is the only country in the world which doesn't have its central bank entirely in government ownership, but conspiracy nuts tend to ignore simple truths while treating outlandish claims as fact.

I notice you didn't say were you read that claim about the "original" Rothschild's will, but I'm guessing it was one of those conspiracy websites. It simply doesn't make sense. Even if a will ever had such a condition (which would itself be silly) governments have the power to frustrate it, and would not hesitate to do so. They certainly wouldn't exempt Rothschild banks from transparency standards while bailing then out!!

Likewise the claim that they own half the world's wealth is not credible.

BTW tax deductibility is not in itself a reason to give to charities. They don't get back all the money they give; they merely get back the tax they've paid on what they've given.

Adrian I'd like to agree with you. I too found these comments hard to swallow. This is why I asked the question. I have no personal reason or connection to this question, only that the source/s as I remember were excerpts from old historic publications like archival records. Even written in what I would have considered 'period speak'. Oh well, I guess conspiracy theories or not I'll never really know the truth, as far fetched as these claims are to me, I never say never, because you never know what you might discover around the corner.

Clearly few posters give a damn about the Rothschild's, who have no sway in Australia.

ttbn - Looking at some of the companies owned or controlled by them I would say you are wrong.

Banks controlled or owned approx 164 worldwide.
Search "ROTHSCHILD OWNED & CONTROLLED BANKS" I don't believe all the info there.

They are also under investigation.
Search "Rothschild Bank Now Under Criminal Investigation Over Missing $4 Billion In Global Corruption Probe"

Wealth
Investopedia estimates the family’s total wealth at over $2 trillion in assets and holdings, including some of the world’s oldest living corporations:

…their holdings span a number of diverse industries, including financial services, real estate, mining, energy and even charitable work.There are a few Rothschild-owned financial institutions still operating in Europe, including N M Rothschild & Sons Ltd in the United Kingdom, and Edmond de Rothschild Group in Switzerland. The family also owns more than a dozen wineries in North America, Europe, South America, South Africa and Australia.

Now that was saved articles I have but would need further checking to check as there is a lot of untruths on inet.

Philip.S, thank you. You are the first and seemingly only one to 'answer my question'. Some of what you say 'rings a bell'. I also agree that I choose not to believe some of what is put out there, even if it is from a 'reputable' medium. I would however lean towards the 'where there's smoke there's fire' sentiment, otherwise I wonder why would there be such scrutiny of such a dynasty/empire. I am reminded that some years ago, (don't remember the details), that Bill Gates HAD to halve his empire? I don't remember the reason but I seem to recall he could be a threat (buggered if I know to who). It was as if, because of his wealth, he could somehow try to de-stabilise the Govt? I still, to this day don't know what that was all about. Even if I researched it I would take the info with a pinch of salt. Well at least I am getting wiser with Postings like yours. Good on you, keep it up.

I have no knowledge of the ROTHCHILDS, their family, or business interests. Other than it seems almost obscene to me, that one family controls a personal fortune of over a 'trillion Dollars' someone quoted herein? After all the Principal within that family, who has carriage for controlling much of the assets, stocks & bonds and hard currency of all types, is just an ordinary human being.

Somebody who has all the foibles that comes from being human, and who needs to; eat, drink, sleep, bathe and defecate just like the poorest soul living in the slums of Calcutta, one so disenfranchised from Indian society, he wears the mantle, and belongs to the cast, that of 'untouchable'.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Marxist, nor am I a goody two shoes, but possessing and controlling a trillion dollars? It's positively obscene. And if it's true, these ROTHCHILDS have never been audited - what in hell's name are the IRS doing? Sorry, I realise I'm somewhat obtuse - they own the IRS as well, eh?

I feel I should say something about the detractors of my post. I would like to put it out there that I am 'old school', and as such I do not wear or tolerate fools. At all! Any time I say something I am repeating something that I either read or was told in conversation. So the only time I will make a 'statement' is if I have been privy to it's origin and can attest to its validity, accuracy and authenticity. I absolutely abhor and detest political correctness. I have 'broken down' the words 'politically correct' and to my horror I found, (to over simplify), it ultimately can be extended to mean, a 'LIE'! A recent example was one of Trumps pre-election promises was he would re-instate 'Glass-Stiegal'. (look it up). Now he's in, I saw an interview recently where one of his MP's was asked about Trump back-flipping on this promise. He dis-agreed and said 'no we are going to implement a 21'st century Glass-Stiegal. The interviewer kept repeating the question, to no avail, ultimately she closed by inferring that it was not going to happen. PC goes straight over peoples heads because they only hear what they want to hear. There is only one interpretation of correct and anything else is anything but 'correct', and so it goes that anything that is 'politically' correct, by definition, must be incorrect or even to the final point of it being i LIE!

o sung wu "And if it's true, these ROTHCHILDS have never been audited"

The problem is they have so much and essentially a lot of what they own or control are behind shelf companies and lots of trusts and various other legal ways to hide they real owner, simply where would you start and bet you would miss lots of their assets.

As an comparison the pentagon is monetarily and complexity wise like the Rothchilds but for years Congress want them audited, hasn't happened.

With the pentagon the problem is where has the money gone as opposed to the Rothchilds which is where is the money.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/07/31/Pentagon-s-Sloppy-Bookkeeping-Means-65-Trillion-Can-t-Pass-Audit

Pentagon’s Sloppy Bookkeeping Means $6.5 Trillion Can’t Pass an Audit

The Defense Department over the years has been notorious for its lax accounting practices. The Pentagon has never completed an audit of how they actually spend the trillions of dollars on wars, equipment, personnel, housing, healthcare and procurements.

An increasingly impatient Congress has demanded that the Army achieve “audit readiness” for the first time by Sept. 30, 2017, so that lawmakers can get a better handle on military spending. But Pentagon watchdogs think that may be mission impossible, and for good reason.

A Department of Defense inspector general’s report released last week offered a jaw-dropping insight into just how bad the military’s auditing system is.

The Defense Finance and Accounting Service, the behemoth Indianapolis-based agency that provides finance and accounting services for the Pentagon’s civilian and military members, could not provide adequate documentation for $6.5 trillion worth of year-end adjustments to Army general fund transactions and data.

o sung wu I can't imagine the money means much to them. We humans have only so many senses to gratify. However running businesses successfully can be extremely gratifying, & almost all consuming. I should imagine running countries & governments by proxy could become all consuming.

I have run a couple of bankrupt companies. One I took from losing millions a year to making millions in just 2 years. This was all consuming, & I worked 14 hours a day 29 days a month, because every day was too important to not be there.

This was not for the money, when you have few expenses & over $100,000, [25 years ago] a year coming in, money is unimportant. I was paid less than a number of weekend staff, working 14 hours on penalty rates. It was the satisfaction of doing it, & having your ideas prove successful that made it a great way to spend your time.

For over 2 years I did not have 2 consecutive days off, & once it got to the stage where I could take a week off with out anything collapsing, I lost interest & left.

Someone has to own those huge companies, & as I don't want to, for me it might as well be the ROTHCHILDS

Hi there PHILIP S...

I'm sure you're right with the various shelf companies and other deeply arcane off-shore businesses they can operate without, seemingly doing so. Money assures power, and with power you can almost buy governments, why then am I not surprised.

In my previous career I witnessed enumerable examples of the use of power to alter or obfuscate even the truth to such an extent, where any vestiges of wrongdoing were utterly obliterated for all time. Moreover with great power, even the truth itself can become warped to such an extent as to become mendacious! Whereas mendacity can be sufficiently distorted to become truthfulness, all at the merest whim of those who exercise the 'power'.

G'day HASBEEN...

I understand the real buzz you must achieve when you have the opportunity to develop a hopelessly run-down Company, and through your own guile and sweat, manage to turn it back around into a successful going-concern, while operating totally in the black. I hear of old colleagues who've worked and involved themselves and their family, into a small business and slowly see it beginning to succeed? The happiness must resonate right throughout the entire family.

Conversely, when a family has poured all their combined resources and energies into a family enterprise, only to see it fail, and fail again. That can only end in tragedy with a precursor of; public shame, bankruptcy, and sadly (occasionally) a tragic murder-suicide.

I thought I should explain my title, 'The Elite'. Recently one of the Bush's (ex-president) was speaking at a 'closed door' function where no media and therefore recording or photographic equipment was allowed. Someone in the audience recorded Mr Bush, at one point, with his arms outstretched towards the audience, saying 'we are the elite'. I won't say any more but it was very damaging for the people at this gathering if this got out. It would finally show up these people for what they truly are.

o sung wu,

The principal within the Rothschild family is a figment of your imagination.

While it is still a very rich family, it's also a very large family. Not all are in banking and finance. And some are princes and princesses.

The size of the family fortune is of little significance, as it no longer operates as one.

For anyone interested in the family there are two
volumes that should be available at your local
libraries:

1) "The House of Rothschild (V.1): Money's Prophets
1798 - 1848" by Niall Ferguson.

2) "The House of Rothschild (V.2): The World's Bankers
1849 - 1999" by Niall Ferguson.

Both are reputable references and well worth a read.

Thank you AIDAN for drawing my attention to my apparent naivety and callowness in matters of corporate dominance and supremacy. However without drawing upon the principles of my ol' mate Occam's Razor, I was however speaking figuratively, rather then precisely.

Any organization that can account for so much wealth and power would have it conspicuously and secretly placed in all manner of corporate configuration(s) and elaborate framework(s). Not dissimilar from the real 'power' and puppeteers controlling the Pong Su?

Anyway AIDAN I do appreciate you drawing my attention to my vivid imagination - just another off my more redeeming qualities I guess?

Hi there FOXY...

Firstly how is your dear Mum getting on? She seems to have settled quite well into Care from what you've been saying, which is really terrific. You're still visiting them all, and entertaining them in your own inimitable way I guess. Which must be really good for your Mum as well, with her daughter so close on hand, and visiting her so frequently.

One of my Old Bosses (Supt.) has had to place his wife of sixty odd years into full-time Care a couple of weeks ago, and he's utterly heartbroken, and very very lonely. To hear this big, tough, 87 years old copper crying over the 'phone to one of his former subordinates, is very hard believe me, what exactly do you say him?

Finally, how are you now FOXY? Well I hope, and thanks for providing us all with those references on the ROTHSCHILD family. I 'think' I drove by one of their palatial homes on Rhode Island years ago now. Naturally it was very much a gated residence - 'Power', one of the essential elements of crime I believe

Dear O Sung Wu,

Thank You.

I'm a work in progress. But so far so good.
As for mum? She has good days and she has bad days.That's
the way it is with dementia. However she is in an
excellent facility with very caring staff (I know because
I'm there regularly keeping an eye on things) and they
have some excellent programs - which she does try to get
involved in. They had a music program the other day. An
Irish Opera Singer was a guest performer and when he learned
that mum had a Russian background he sang "Dark Eyes" in
Russian especially for her. You should have seen mum's
reaction. Smiling from ear to ear. It made my heart sing.
To see her reacting to the song.

I'm glad that you found the two volumes on the Rothschilds
of some use. We have both volumes in our regional library
and I've placed a reservation on both of them. I have to be
frank - in that I don't know that much about the Rothschilds
except for their reputed wealth. So it should be an interesting
read.

I read an interesting article recently about Australian
banks. It stated that
Australia's 4 big banks are not merely big, they're massive.
Their combined assets are roughly at $2.86 trillion (in 2013)
or roughly twice the size of Australia's national income.

They also annually make up 4 of the 5 largest Australian
companies by market capitalisation. Together representing more
than one quarter of the market, with control of 88% of
residential mortgages and 81% of deposits according to the
International Monetary Fund.

However its not just banking they control. The big 4 also
own 53% of life insurance premiums and account for 57% of
retail investment funds through bank-owned platforms,
undeniably proving just how much power and influence these
organisations have. And again if they own so much of
Australia's economy - the mind can merely gasp
at the huge power these people wield. And it all started
with the Rothschilds in Europe so many years ago.

Foxy, I am pleased to read your of your research into the banks and that the Rothschilds are in there at every turn. You seem well read, I am not, I pick up bits and pieces through other means. I wonder if you, and any other commenters, can clarify something for me. I have for some time wondered of the strength of a story I came across many years ago. Apparently one of the previous British Kings, (I think it was George the) needed money to fight a war against Napoleon. He apparently approached Rothschild and in return he wanted the right to start the first bank of England. I was told that the British Govt is still paying that loan off today, or some similar arrangement.

Foxy, I just read one of the links you suggested about the Rothschilds. I found myself, shocked, repulsed and generally came away angered by the stories. It appears they (Rothschilds) crossed so many boundaries of injustice (social and otherwise) and wrong doing. In parts they can be seen as criminals. And as for backing both sides of a war; How disgusting and predatory is that. I won't continue with anymore comments on this disgusting dynasty as I have probably already breached some forum rules or at least come very close. Thank you for bringing me up to speed on this topic.

'evening to you ALTRAV...

With immense wealth comes immense power. And with unfettered power, confers unconstrained control. Control of the judiciary, police, government ministers, many who have carriage of specific portfolios that may have some deleterious impact upon the business or political interests, of the super rich and powerful.

Substantial bribes proffered to police, are the substance of powerful organized crime figures. Whereas substantial endowments and covert donations, made to government ministers, come from the world wide rich and powerful. Those powerful figures who encourage and demand those with Ministerial responsibilies, to engage in instances of massive government malfeasance and misfeasance.

**I've mentioned previously, several times in fact, on OLO, a matter involving an untouchable figure that still retains great power,though now retired. He still remains a severe irritation in the gut, of those good men who had him literally 'cut 'n dry' as it were. Now that's POWER!

And finally when government's suffer huge electoral dislocation through the directed interference and orchestration from super rich criminals; where whole Nations are changed and the political landscape is altered for all time.

As an example I'd direct your attention to some of the more indigent and impecunious Nations in Central and South America, sometimes ruled by these puppet governments, often installed by the massively rich and powerful Drug cartels. Who maintain such control they almost 'own' entire towns (Columbia's, Medellin) where their power surmounts even life itself, and where death can be metered as easily as the mighty dollar. That's but a mere example of the powers the super rich can command.

However, we see examples of the rich generously outlaying much of their fortune for good, and using their 'powers' (to be heard) to persuade, and gently urge governments to make small changes for the benefit of the entire community. I have no doubt whatsoever, the super Rich do posses and use their 'powers' to produce results that they themselves aspire to. Whether it's for good, or not so good, that's for the community as a whole, to decide?

Dear ALTRAV,

I don't know that much about The House of Rothschild
as I indicated earlier. I have placed a reservation
on the two books that I cited previously hoping to
learn more. My regional library has both the volumes.
The best that I can suggest for you is to Google
The Rothschild empire for yourself and see what comes
up. Here's just one link that's available on the web.

http://www.australiannationalreview.com/rothschild-empire-control-world-events/

ALTRAV = Alternative Raver.

Hey ULTRAV,
While 911 did start the war on terror and so many other events, it happened many years ago. Whilst investigating 911 is interesting, as is learning about Rothschilds, it's old news, just as is the existence of the Bilderberg group.
If you are interested in this type of stuff, then I suggest that current events are actually way more interesting.
Don't expect 'conspiracy' answers to come from just watching one video. To really dig into this stuff, you need to know all the people, all the companies, all the NGO's, all the government departments and the people who work in them and their relationships to other people and organisation. And you have to sift through tons of news stories and leaked files just to even get a grasp of the extent of what's really going on in the world. And trust me, if funding 2 sides of a war is a bit much for you to stomach, then you really don't want to know whats really going on anyway.

Armchair critic, it is heartening to hear your comments. I have for many years been frustrated by the 'feeling' of being lied to, deceived and generally made to feel helpless by the antics and activities of these 'criminals', and yes, I do mean politicians and big business, banks and so on. I know I need more information if only to achieve a reasonable understanding of these scumbags. It gives me a feeling of hope that by venting on these forums I may find like minded people who are also not willing to be compromised and just accept this form of abuse, assault or even rape. Obviously I do not mean rape literally, but never-the-less, left with the same feeling. I live in the knowledge that there are people out there who are the very people you speak of. As for my detractors, I can assure them all I have been witness to some of my assertions. I just live in hope that I come across others like myself, who have experienced the things of which I speak. I have over the years touched on issues which have manifested themselves into a quest for the truth and I would hope, one day, a form of reckoning, pulling all these evil mongrels down to where they belong.

So, you want to take the 'red pill' and become a truth warrior?
I'll can throw you in the deep end if you want, but you have a significant amount of catching up to do.

If you want to go down the rabbit hole and find out how foul it really is, then I would suggest going to youtube, and seacrching for George Webb's channel. If you sift through his videos, go back to about 'Day 90 Part 1' or the beginning of the section of videos entitled 'Braverman, Haiti and Me' and start watching from there.

I think if you look at and understand what has been going on in Haiti, from those videos it will prepare you for everything that is to come after it.
We're now at Day 272 and I can't tell you the amount of stuff that has been uncovered. In some ways, I'm now almost ahead of the news, know what stories are important and what's going to happen before it does.
Once you get a feel for whats going on from Georges videos go to the 'Crowdsource the Truth' Channel.
And if you really want to get smart, look for the youtube channel 'Stranahan' and consider 'Citizen Journalist School'.
I can't cut and paste on the device I'm on right now but there's an interesting recent 'Stranahan' video you should watch.
Look Up 'What we know 100% for sure about Trump / Russia'.
Then watch the Ukraine presentation a day or so later on his channel.
And then go over to George Webb's channel and start watching the videos on Haiti.

Good Luck,
Keep at it and you'll soon be much smarter than the average author and political journalist, I guarantee it.

A new website was created last night to archive all their work.
Go to truthleaks.org

OK AC, thanks for that. I finally feel as though I'm getting somewhere. I just hope one day the 'she'll be righters' will catch up and finally see these mongrels for what they really are. Or maybe I'm wrong. NAH!

Things are the way they are because that's the way they are meant to be.
Now....if an individual,....a group,...a society.....a nation doesn't think they should be this way then they are at liberty to effect a change.
A society is not about to entrust leadership to a perceived fool but they will to a non perceived one.
Define 'fool' in a social sense....and then as a personal opinion

Do they match?

ilmessaggio, I am not sure what you are saying. I'm not too 'up with today speak'. I would appreciate a simpler version.

What exists today is the 'end result' of what has already happened to this point in time.
Society doesn't just open a cracker jack box and out pops the booby prize like some 'lucky dip'.
It doesn't just happen overnight, they worked really hard to get here!

If society is incapable of discerning as to 'who is' and 'who isn't' then it is saddled with the end result being 'their choice'
The decision of each individual is their responsibility, not the govt's. not the media....theirs alone.
Then they cry 'we were deceived', No! you deceived yourself by expecting someone else to take the responsibility off your hands.

Today's society is both indolent and phlegmatic.
If indeed the Rothchilds are 'in control' then they deserve to be because it was, and is, society's responsibility to ensure their future instead they are sitting in front of the television eating potato chips watching a cooking show or football game.
Who's watching the gate? '
ahh! she'll be right mate'.....and now we get 'the Rothchilds, or some such' are in control

Then the day came to the chorus of.....'the Chinese have taken our jobs' while the populace is demanding and gorging themselves on poor quality Chinese products but wanting top wage because they can't resist gambling and the concept of 'saving' is an archaic activity that makes the Rothchilds rich.
If the Rothchilds buy telecommunication company shares and you insist on being literally wired to your phone, whose fault is that?

Puleeze .......where does one stop!

Simple means a lot more words

ilmessaggio, I'm glad I asked for clarification, because I have been banging on about the very things you have mentioned and I too have gotten responses such as 'that's what we pay the polys for'. What I am saying is that over the years I have experienced evil, thuggery and dishonesty at not only ALL levels of govt, but also friends and associates of those in positions of power who were beholding to and entrusted by the people. These people ride roughshod over both laws and people to obtain there own selfish goals or agenda. For example, all too often we know there are property developers who are friendly with or associated to someone in govt. I know I have been a witness to it so I will not stand for anyone trying to deflect on this issue. As for doing something about it, I'm sure you will agree that one or two people in this current political climate are as effective as winking in the dark. The powers that be have slowly and systematically removed themselves from any threat or risk of being challenged or brought to account and ultimately, justice. Far from advocating communism, I do however feel that a form MAO'ism would be a welcome relief, if only to get rid of the Elitist rule. I don't mind a system of govt where we are represented as we are now but my form of govt is one where we firstly select our reps because of their EQ not their IQ. These people are only messengers of the people and because each one represents an area they can easily get questions and answers to their constituents and in return keep us informed accordingly and immediately. Remember they are there to do our bidding. This current system of democracy is a farce and a con. It is because the general public is lazy, un-informed (their choice) and gullible that these polys see an opportunity to steal, lie and deceive because they know there is so much division in the community and so they play on that to rule.

It was ever thus.

There have always been groups that set themselves up above the rest
no matter what the system of government.