I have to agree with those who think a fleet of any sort of subs is a bad joke.

What we need is all of north Australia bristling with at least 500 nuclear armed cruise missiles. Add another 100 or so nuclear armed ICBMs, & Australia becomes a target just too expensive to attack.

The MAD, mutually assured destruction, system is what stopped major war between the superpowers, & would work for us equally well. We just have to be able to cause our attacker more in cost than the value of taking Oz, & other than boat people & migrant invasions, we have a suitable defence.

What we need are solar powered submarines, then the Greens would be happy.

To keep them even happier we could have wind-powered surface ships; for which the proven technology already exists.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=sailing+ship&rlz=1C1CAFB_enAU718AU718&oq=sailing+s&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.13581j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Leoj, like that other propagandist you attempt to turn the big lie into fact;

"There are countries nearby who would like to grab Australia's resources to balance their economies. They must see opportunity in the leftists' disruption of initiatives to improve Australia's capacity to defend its borders and at a distance."

Where is your evidence? it may be the One Nations party line, but that is not proof.

"Most posters provide support from what they say and I usually do the same out of politeness and respect for others time."

What a load of rubbish leoj. Like a cracked record, you grind out the same silly line over and over; "Greens, Eastern Bloc, trots, watermelons.

Paul1405,

You are quickly out of your depth. -Which is also why Lee Rhiannon, her 'Boy' Sh**bridge and others want to keep the Greens as a collective of serial protesters. That way it is all care and no responsibility and no need to research either. Just bang on with the 'Class Wars' and 'comrade this and that'. Good work if you can get it, polishing a leather Senate seat and no responsibility, just log-jamming and frustrating others who want to get things done.

It wasn't anyone as recent as 'Hanson' (always on your mind), it was defence analysts, in Australia and international. There are authoritative sources to confirm.

The Greens themselves refer to the exasperating NSW 'Eastern Bloc' faction as 'Watermelons', Trots, anarchists and so on. Your attention has been drawn to recent media reports, with links. But of course you are claiming ignorance.

There are so many questions that need answers -
regarding the consideration of nuclear submarines
for this country. One of the main concerns should
be the maintenance of the highest safety standards.
Experts point out that if we are going to have a
competitive evaluation process for new submarines
we should ask - is Australia prepared in political,
military-technological or industrial terms to consider
nuclear submarines as a viable option? According to
some experts Australia does not have the necessary
expertise in the navy that is required for the
insurance of the highest safety standards. That this
is something Australia currently lacks.

Foxy said;
Australia does not have the necessary
expertise in the navy that is required for the
insurance of the highest safety standards. That this
is something Australia currently lacks.

Not completely, there are many years of experience in managing a
nuclear reactor.
The navy of course can be trained, there would be some years in which
to train them. Unfortunately our most experienced people in nuclear
power have now died of old age.

At present our biggest threat is from the 5th column.
We do need to try and detect future threat development.
If we do detect a future threat then planning needs to be undertaken.