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Only Two To Go, Malcolm

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Dear Paul,

I don't doubt for one moment that Mr Abbott feels that
he's been wronged by the Party. But I think it goes
deeper than that. Under the guise of his opinions or
unsolicited advice it is hard to ignore the fact that
the man has not given up on his dreams of holding court
in Kirribilli House. It is a shame that he does not
realise the damage that he's causing to his own party.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 6 July 2017 4:33:24 PM
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Paul,

Another rookie mistake TA is in no position to launch a challenge yet as he clearly doesn't have the numbers

Given that this government's track record is vastly better than either Krudd's or Juliar's and a Labor government lead by a corrupt Shorten in partnership with corrupt greens could only be a disaster.

Are you talking about the tiny penalty rates reduction put in place by the Labor created and appointed Fair Work that affects a few people that is minor compared to the many workers whose penalty rates were traded away by the unions?

As for MT or TA, I don't particularly support either as in spite of achievements far beyond Krudd or Juliar, their battles are hurting the conservative cause.

I would prefer if TA joined the conservatives to provide a rational alternative to ON, and Julie Bishop took over from MT.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 6 July 2017 7:06:39 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I don't see Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull being
replaced. It would be a disaster for the Liberal
Party. As for Julie Bishop as PM? After her betrayal of
Mr Abbott who trusts her? She's a go-with-the-flow
whateverist - when the times demand a conservative.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 6 July 2017 8:37:16 PM
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Hi Foxy and Shadow,

Nah Shadow, I was talking about the billions given to the Big End of Town in tax cuts, not the last few pennies taken from the pockets of hard working Aussie battlers.

Every disastrous poll, every destabilizing word, sees that number increase. As for a challenge, it does not do the challenger any harm in the long run to challenge and lose the first time.

I agree Foxy with what you say. however it is obvious Abbott is on the campaign trail, addressing meetings of the conservative faithful, shoring up that grass roots support he needs, and at the same time using such addresses as a platform to attack Turnbull,
Is Abbott motivated by his hate for the perceived disloyal traitors, or does he genuinely see himself as the rightful leader of the conservative side of politics, or a bit of both. If I was Abbott, I would not be particularly upset if Shorten replaced Turnbull. It could be a long haul back by that road, but not impossible for a bloke who is 59 now. Historically in the 1950's the DLP split from the ALP, which put Labor into the wilderness for 20 years until Whitlam came along. Joining with a third party, would probably do much the same for conservatism today.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 7 July 2017 4:40:22 AM
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Abbott caught campaigning! What a shocker...

As for corporate tax cuts, the ALP used to have some economic nous, and lead the charge in reducing company tax, and even BS Shorten previously acknowledged the need to do so. The proof is that in 2000 Australia received per capita one of the largest shares of the foreign investment, but today it has halved and the rivers of gold that fuelled economic growth are drying up.

From what was one of the lower tax rates in '97 Australia now has one of the highest, and until someone has the balls to cut the rates the local economy is going to stagnate. Shorten's populist calling to tax corporates appeals primarily to economic pinheads.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 7 July 2017 6:14:19 AM
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Ah! another one of the Conservatives exalted ones the cigar chomping, 'Foreign Investor' who demands his never ending pound of flesh. Nothing better than selling off the farm to a bunch of high return foreign tax fraudsters is there Shadow.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 7 July 2017 8:38:20 AM
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