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Failure of the Gun Laws

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Blah, blah, blah, Leo...it is amazing what "knowledge" one can gather while staring aimlessly out the window, down at the rest home. You do it rather well. Or do you just have an amazing list of friends on 'Facebook' Donald Trump, Malcolm Turnbull, Bill Shorten, Bob Brown, Stalin, The Queen, Noddy, The Pope, God etc etc. I am always amazed by your intellect, and your expert knowledge on all subjects, including Islam, Christianity, the Greens, growing geraniums, socialism, feminism, world poverty, the list goes on and on.

Back to the topic. I can understand why someone might have 300 or 400 stamps in their collection, or another having 300 or 400 coins in their collection. But I cannot understand why someone would need to collect 300 or 400 guns, as is the case with several strategically placed locations around Sydney. What is the purpose of these arsenals of, in some cases high powered firearms, I am sure it is for more than a bit of 'show and tell' down at the local kiddies play group (gun club). Are these "collectors" preparing for Armageddon, or for a future police state?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 24 June 2017 6:25:16 AM
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Anyone who wants a gun will get a gun. That's pretty much all there is to it.
Anyone who wants to kill will do so..whether they have a gun or not.
That also, is all there is to it.

I saw on the news last night a dog of a young man was sentenced to 20 years for killing another young man that he didn't even know that came to the rescue of a girl a mob of animals were harassing outside a macca's.

He didn't need a gun...used a knife straight through the heart. What did amaze me was the judge saying he understood the perp didn't actually mean to kill the other man. He used one stab and aimed straight for the heart yet didn't mean to kill him?

Such is the mentality of a lot of our judges.
Posted by moonshine, Saturday, 24 June 2017 7:39:57 AM
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Gun arsenal collections in Australia are not a matter to debate with the Yank NRA or its Australian metastases but to report to the police and to raise with mainstream political parties representing collectively the people of Australia. That is, the government, opposition and cross-benchers who don't openly represent the Yank NRA like that so-called "Lib Dem" bloke. Those will require hard evidence of allegations of illicit gun collections and any police complicity on behalf of the Australian arm of the Yank NRA.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 24 June 2017 11:00:41 AM
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Anyone who sets out to kill is by choice breaking the most serious law of all. What does it matter to him if he breaks other laws, for instance by carrying illegal weapons?

Firearms - it doesn't matter how many a good citizen with a licence has and collections would be old, valuable historical pieces with fine engraving, probably never fired.

Gun crime always was very low in Australia. Practically non existent before the mass immigration that allowed the Calabrian Mafia to establish its second, most important base, which was in Melbourne, Australia. That was facilitated by both sides of the Parliament in Canberra, who even when the courts and newspapers had evidence of a growing criminal gang problem, denied and ridiculed the very idea that criminal gangs like the Mafia could be in Australia.

Besides, immigration was a sacred cow that could never be mentioned unless in glowing, purple praise.

Later, even when the Australian Calabrian and other criminal gangs were the subject of official concern from other countries, from the Italian police for instance, Canberra continues to downplay it all.

What about Labor's infamous 'Father of Multiculturalism', Al Grassby, a Minister for Immigration no less? A clownish-acting politician, who was all 'racism this and racism that', but with alleged sinister connections to the Mob.

In 2017 the problems with criminal gangs involved in drugs and their violence continues. Middle eastern gangs have infiltrated OMGs for the cover and distribution networks for drug trafficking. They also happen to prefer settling even minor disagreements with violence.

The 'gun control' of the ambulance-chasing, headline-hunting Greens cannot lay a glove on the gangs responsible not only for the small incidence of gun crime in Australia, but also for the thousands of kids being introduced to drugs every year.

But the Greens are only after headlines. Like Labor, they resolutely opposed and trashed successful anti-criminal gang law (Qld's VLAD), that that made life difficult for criminal gangs responsible for drug importing, manufacturing and trafficking AND for gun crime.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:33:34 PM
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contd..

The Australian illegal drugs market is extremely attractive to organised criminals. In economics parlance the Australian market is underdeveloped and for criminal gang entrepreneurs, ripe to be exploited, particularly by South American gangs.

Cocaine use flourishes in the well-appointed offices of lawyers and other professionals in the cbds on Friday night and likely through the week as well. There are other recreational drugs as well, including tabs. The money goes to the criminal gangs. Another market to be developed no doubt.

How much is the Australian drug trade worth annually? What might it top when fully exploited? One thing is for sure, those hundreds of millions would be feeding into corruption at all levels of society.

'Gun control' is a cover for failure and hypocrisy and deflects attention away from the real problems. Of course there are other political diversions such as gay marriage that occupy the federal parliament as well. The Fourth Estate are generally over-willing to help with that.
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:48:10 PM
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The Minister said the other day that there are over 260,000 illegal firearms in Australia.
The Government has had since 1996, that is 21 years to solve this problem, seems that the Gun Laws have failed rather miserably.

I have over 50 firearms registered to me, not a big collection as collections go, and I use quite a few of them on a regular basis.

Julian,

"Those will require hard evidence of allegations of illicit gun collections and any police complicity on behalf of the Australian arm of the Yank NRA."

Excrita bovinus!!

Paul,

How you goin' on the permanent amnesty question?
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:57:19 PM
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