Hi Runner, I'll defer to Big Nana every time :)

President Obama has just spoken about 'fake news' and said something like "Facts matter. A democracy is in trouble when people continue to dismiss facts."

I'll have to get the full quote. But it sounded spot-on.

Cheers,

Joe

Well the aboriginal Conference in Uluru has determined that invading peoples should make treaties with the aboriginal nations. Noting most of those present have some of the invaders genes. They believe treaties will solve all the problems of aboriginal youth.

However I believe the problems are culturally ingrained. Some are taught that the property of the invaders is rightfully theirs, because the invaders reside on stolen lands.

Leo you phony moderate, once more spitting your anti Green venom, with a rant of convoluted nonsense, but as always being careful to avoid any possible scrutiny of your own biased Hansonite opinions. It would be a most unfortunate turn of events for Aboriginal people should those of your political ilk ever come to power. What is One Nations policy on Aboriginal affairs, or is it just too draconian, too extreme, to be publicly aired. Can you enlighten us? Unlike the simplistic BS of One Nation, The Australian Greens have a comprehensive policy on Indigenous Affairs.

Big Nana, the first Aboriginal to graduate from an Australian university was Charles Perkins in 1966, so I find it hard to believe that in 1967 isolated Kimberley Aboriginals were "going to university" certainly not in large numbers, as for your other assertions I can't comment. like 99% of Australians I was not living in the Kimberley in 1967.

The following link makes for interesting reading;

http://www.nma.gov.au/indigenous/civil_rights/the_referendum,_1957-67/australia_in_the_1950s

I stand by my "low ebb" comment.

Foxy,

? I have to say that you have completely lost me.

Hi Paul,

There may have been quite a few people graduating from uni before Charles Perkins, Margaret Valadian for one. And many people who had graduated as nurses and teachers as well, certainly as far back as the late forties. In a sense, Indigenous people started one generation behind non-Indigenous Australians in large-scale tertiary education (the 1980s compared to the 1960s), and are closing the gap quickly: Indigenous women are already commencing uni study at a higher rate than NON-Indigenous Australian men, and at about 80 % of the rate of Non-Indigenous Australian women.

Currently, about 60 % of 20-25-year-olds commence uni study, and more than half of those graduate. So currently, around one in three in that age-group will graduate at some time. Back in the 1950s, barely one Australian in a thousand went to university. True. There are roughly as many Indigenous uni students currently studying as there were of ALL Australian uni students back in 1950. Check out the Dept. of educ. web-site, it's all there.

Those are the facts, and surely Paul, facts matter ?

Cheers,

Joe

Paul1405,

Apparently anyone who might disagree with you is a 'Hansonite' and then off you go on one of your moon walks.

Paul Keating on the contribution of the Greens to federal politics,

"Greens self-serving Trots: ex-PM Keating

Former prime minister Paul Keating has used a Labor rally to turn his caustic wit on the Greens Party, labelling it "a bunch of opportunists and Trots"..

"They're a protest party, not a party of government, but their game is to nobble the party of government that can actually make changes," Mr Keating said.

"You can't be a government when you've got a bunch tearing away at you, trying to pinch a seat here and there, all to make themselves look important."

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/keating-batters-pathetic-greens/news-story/84c9273bb8753df6e13b58dcdbe1aba1

Tell us now, when have any of the Greens elite ever spent time living with and volunteering to help indigenous? Tony Abbott did many times and the Greens lambasted him for it.

How is that for Greens form?

All the Greens do is turn up at demos and stir the pot. There is nothing constructive but a lot probably destructive in that. The Greens are ambulance chasers and always out for headlines for themselves.