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leoj,

Ducking and weaving yet again.

You accuse others of falsehoods, yet you
can't man up when questioned. Typical
bully and cowardly tactics accordingj to
my husband.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 1:07:51 PM
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Dear Foxy,

I'm sorry to hear the disagreement with your husband became uncomfortable. It sounds like you both have strong views which stem from a care and empathy for those impacted by this tragedy.

The images and thoughts of children's lifeless bodies are highly emotive and demand in many of us a call to action, something I think is right and proper.

The problem is that in some such a call becomes a desire for revenge and extremist action. There are plenty of images of dead and wounded children from the conflict in Syria circulating on the internet, plenty of fodder for those who would inspire young men to terrible deeds.

For instance another 44 children this month in Syria due to US air strikes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-war-us-air-strikes-civilian-death-toll-deadliest-on-record-isis-donald-trump-a7751911.html

We seem to be in a deadly cycle of violence, one that seems intent on claiming innocent lives.

One of my few hopes for the Trump administration was that he would take on Wahhabism. The sight of him bowing, scraping and uttering motherhood statements as he signed off on billions of dollars of arms sales just made me depressed. The Saudi role in so much of the Islamic terrorism is beyond dispute and needs to be countered.

In someways I think your husband's reaction was entirely justifiable, the only problem is without action in so many other areas it may only serve to escalate alienation and risk.

We need broad and committed thinkers to be addressing this issue. We do not have any measure of either in Trump.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 1:31:24 PM
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Foxy,
Your husbands suggestion is far more severe than mine. How would he identify the 'potential suspects'? Is he saying ALL muslims would have to carry an identity card or be deported? I have never said anything about deportation or imprisonment without trial.

My suggestion is that we do not allow entry of any more muslims as immigrants or refugees. They breed you know, that is how we get the 'home grown' radicals.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 1:40:19 PM
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Someone herein spoke negatively about the media. Yesterday morning while I was in the Doctor's surgery, they have a TV ostensibly to mollify the 'inpatient' patients still waiting well beyond their scheduled appointment?

Thereon were these two 'fetching' young ladies and a follicular challenged fellow, all of whom were apparently presenters, together with this 'expert' telling us all about the Manchester Bombing.

There of course would be many polite interruptions from these two ladies, to render this expert their help, to complete his sentence and add to his opinion(s) for him. Interestingly none of the presenters or their 'expert' had the slightest notion what was going on in Manchester, post this bombing, other than what was being presented on the CNN News.

It was similar to the Lindt Cafe. During the prosecution of that Operation, all the backyard experts were saying how it all should be done, even what weapons and tactics should be employed. And often criticizing the processes and tactical structures used by police to extract and ultimately free the hostages safely.

And what exactly do we expect the Media's role to be? It's to faithfully report the truth. Not to provide opinion and embellish upon that truth, in order to obtain good copy.

Recently I was asked to re-read over two chapters in a non-fiction book which I, and my old squad were solely featured. The two incidences concerned, were undoubtedly faithfully reproduced and true, one of the outcomes (first chapter) was definitely not. Yet that chapter erroneously reflected otherwise?

When I again queried the author for a second time, he stated:- In his, his editor and the Publisher's opinion, it would sell much better, to exercise a bit of imagination and modify the outcome to a more pleasing and favourable conclusion; than what in reality was truthfully our failure, and from that failure, came an avoidable tragedy. I'm afraid the media has an awful lot to answer for. Who knows they might be brought to account one day?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 1:51:38 PM
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Dear Steele,

Thank you for such a well reasoned response and for
understanding the points I was trying to make.
But you're right. We need to look at the bigger picture
and try to come up with more appropriate solutions to
this complex problem.

Dear Banjo,

My husband did not mention Muslims as such. He was
referring to potential terrorists not just religious
fundamentalists.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 2:00:29 PM
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Tut,tut,ttbn.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 2:03:27 PM
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