the experts(code for leftist who are usually pig headed secularist) mocked and ridiculed Abbott when claiming he could stop the boats. No there were ' push factors' and many other 'complicated' issues. Once they got egg all over their faces instead of showing a little humility they then changed their mocking tone. In comes Triggs with her holier than thou distortians and lies. The last restort that these leftist ' experts' use are tantrums such as we see from the getup clowns and violent demonstrators throwing hissy fits when Trump was elected. Then we have the cry babies who said they would of voted if they knew BREXIT was going to happen. You are right TTBN. Turns out the ' experts' are just bound to a very sick failed narrative whether it be immigration, Islamic terrorism or the global warming joke. They have dumbed down many people in the process. The like of AJ are about as good as they can come up with.

People do get very emotional about certain issues.
Especially issues whose subject matter often involves
issues of deep human and moral concern.

My husband and I had a bit of a disagreement this morning
over the Manchester bombing incident. He wanted me to post
on this discussion the fact that:

"As a result of the Manchester terror attack - governments
should register all potential suspects to carry
identification cards or be instantly deported or imprisoned.
Time has come to act."

My views did not quite agree with his and I tried to explain
to him why I didn't think this would work. He ended up
leaving the room quite upset.

So here I am. People can get upset over something they feel
strongly about. That's the point that I am trying to make.
However, name calling and personal insults only makes things
worse. And, words do hurt as I found out this morning.
We should be mature enough to accept views that don't agree
with our own, especially on a discussion forum of social and
political debate such as this one.

you are half right Foxy. The reality is that holding to a narrative does not save lives. Facing reality does. People getting upset over reality,like the teachings of Islam is a good thing. People frothing at the mouth about fake rubbish like gw is wasted energy and a distraction from saving lives. People can continue to bury their heads in the sand and appear ' nice' but often it is just cowards who helped create a problem and have no guts to address it. It is true that Islamic terrorism can only now be minnimised in countries like Australia because of our extremly dumb immigration program where anyone speaking reality has been demonised over the last 50 years. Many good immigrants who have come from countries where they have suffered due to Islam can't believe our stupidity. Our national broadcasters push on diversity is stuffing this country very quickly.

Dear runner,

We do have laws in this country that we are all
expected to abide by. No exceptions. And those
that break those laws should bear the full force
of the law.

If this is Islamist inspired, even a 'progressive' feminist would have to admit that the girls and young women of the UK have been copping it for just being normal women and human beings (which Islam expresses doubt about).

Islamists have utter contempt and hatred for what the young women of the UK and the western democracies represent.

Of course the Progressives and feminists must step forward and accept some accountability for their failed idealism and social experimentation. What about the Labour Party too? What about the other disgusting abuses of young women, such as the sex trafficking and drugging of young vulnerable women that has gone on for years and still prevails?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11059138/Rotherham-In-the-face-of-such-evil-who-is-the-racist-now.html

Foxy,
That spouse story did come across as a deliberately-crafted and outrageous Strawman, especially in the way you used it. Maybe if your spouse could post his own, instead of asking you to do it for him.

I now wonder how many terrorist attacks it will take or how big a bomb it will have to be to get our politicians to take positive action to protect our citizens. 9/11 obviously was not big enough with only 3000 dead. Looks like it will take a terrorist nuke attack to wake the politicians up.

Everyone can see the problem is ISLAM, yet the polys are deaf, dumb, blind and too stupid to see it. The very least that should be done is stop further muslim entry. 20-25% of muslims hold radical views which is far too high for the safety of our citizens. If muslims cannot get the radicals out the we have to get the muslims out.

Looks like there is only one politician in Aus with the practical nouse to see the problem and the guts to act on it. The two major parties are absolutely hopeless. I am getting sick of their platitudes and excuses. Little kids being deliberately blown apart is too much.